HLFallout Wii Friends Codes:
Retro_X: 2968 6125 8839 2391
Maveric: 7499 2847 0328 3824
AJER: 6667 4300 6873 5997
Icy: 5185 2250 4365 2551
Sordid: 8979 2502 0481 5110
Bosshog: 2852 0608 3271 4531
JRoach: 3771 2523 1865 3972
Kinetic22: 7061 6790 7543 0046
Ekimator: 8990 2190 1442 2059
Low: 3999 9502 0032 8152
joshphillips: 4351 8642 5135 0580
cuculete: 4603 1667 8080 0884
Lambda: 5229 2044 3504 6347
DarkShadow: 8000 7299 5325 0841
Aerodin: 5513 6300 5426 3345
Vesuvias: 2586 0442 8215 4597
MrCow: 7621 7891 1600 5933
neva-: 3982 3423 1084 1944
ripcurl682: A big smelly turd who sold his system. LYNCH HIM!
FORD: 0919 8138 6715 9223
A z t e x: 5801 0199 0565 0423
Shoota: 4844 3732 1789 0119
Zeebok: 1185 2675 4206 8901
Brumisator: 5433 7846 3260 1335
sane: 2231 9589 5738 0632
Maliterra: 2104 4581 8920 5060
magic_lava: 8833 3682 5163 3423
Sleepyhead: 1926 2582 1763 5473
Osman: 4947 7546 9132 1631
Warped Crakhed: 5326 6159 0397 7040
TriggerHappy: 8778 4554 8419 8783
snorkrat: 0494 7333 0340 2088
Bonio05: 0782 7586 4211 0100
ScubaSteve: 0259 4086 5624 0540
MuDpie: 6427 6560 0325 2017
riseabove: 8614 2041 5711 1293
City 17: 2628 4681 9065 0063
Mike MHz: 0158 2070 1294 1569
ilh: 1314 9045 5323 0037
Monkeh: 8295 3854 8003 1203
EatChildren:
( sic ): 6681 2231 2126 0373



Introduction
The Wii is the newest video game home console by Nintendo, with predecessors being the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES), the Nintedo 64 (N64) and the Gamecube (NGC or GCN), making this console Nintendo's 5th. While previous consoles emphasized graphical improvement over their predecessors, the Wii's graphical prowess is nothing remarkable and falls short of the Xbox 360's and PS3's capabilities by a long shot. However, the Wii is here to offer something else. In the words of Reggie Fils-Aime, currently COO and President of Nintendo of America: 'Wii is all about fun', 'Nintendo wanted the Wii ... to be friendly and familiar..'. Nintendo executives have reiterated on several occasions these mantras, and more, including the the wish for the video game industry to grow beyond hardcore gamers. As Fils-Aime said, 'Everyone loves a game, so why isn't everyone playing videogames?'. To accommodate with this philosophy, Nintendo has engrossed the Wii with several key features which will help it stand out from the competition.

Features

• The Wii's main attraction is the Wii remote (the so called 'Wiimote'). The Wiimote is the main controller of the Wii. It can detect motion and tilt in every direction, as well as function as a pointer on-screen. The implications of this is that while using a regular controller you would press a button to, for example, swing your bat, using the Wiimote you would actually swing the controller. This can and is used for a variety of purposes, including sword-swinging, aiming a gun (with the Wiimote being the barrel of the gun), various sports (bowling with the Wiimote as a ball, tennis using the Wiimote as a racket) and even oddities like rowing a boat, with the Wiimote acting as an oar. The Wiimote's main purpose is the make gameplay as intuitive as possible, without having to remember different button combos.
  The Wiimote can be connected to peripherals to further extend its uses. The most common peripheral is the Nunchuck. This peripheral, which connects to the Wiimote by cord, is an analog stick with two buttons and motion detection capabilities. Most first-person games use the Nunchuck for movement (the analog stick for moving forwards, backwards and to the sides, and the buttons for jumping and crouching) and the Wiimote for aiming and shooting, for example. The Nunchuck is a must-have peripheral as a lot of games simply do not function without it. Other peripherals include the Classic Controller, a controller resembling that of older home consoles, and a steering wheel.
  Also, the Wiimote features a low-quality speaker. This is used for special in-game effects like hearing the ball hit the racket in tennis.
  The Wiimote require the use of a sensor bar, which comes with the Wii, to function. The sensor bar connects to the Wii and should be placed close to the TV for correct pointer functioning of the Wiimote.
  
• The Wii is completely backwards compatible, meaning that any game ever released by Nintendo on a home console will be able to be played on the Wii, and even some games released on other consoles. All your Gamecube games are supported by the Wii, as are your controllers. Older games, for the N64 and before, can be downloaded using Nintendo's Virtual Console, a service that allows you to pay for and download games from the NES, the SNES, the N64 and even the non-Nintendo TurboGrafx-16 console and Sega Genesis (also known as Megadrive) console.
  
• WiiConnect24 is the name of Wii's network connection platform. Through this system every internet related activity is handled, including message sending, playing on-line against other people, updating games and Wii firmware and more. The system is called Connect24 since it is always on, even when the Wii is "off". The Wii never is truly powered off, but is only on power-saving mode. It constantly check for updates on the WiiConnect24 net, if connected, and downloads them "overnight" automatically.
  The Wii connects to the internet using built-in Wi-Fi. There is no Ethernet port. This means that unless you have a wireless network at home, you will need to use another solution other than what the Wii comes with by default. One of these possible solutions is the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB connector which connects to any computer with internet access to create a wireless Nintedo-supporting network.
  
• The Wii's channel system is dedicated to make the Wii as versatile and useful as possible. It allows uses of different features that are not necessarily related to each other. These Channels include but are not limited to:
  • Disc Channel- this channels allows the user to play an inserted Wii or Gamecube game.
    
  • Mii Channel- A Mii (pronounced 'me', with a long E sound) is a personal avatar created by the user to represent himself. These Miis can be shared with friends and can even be played with in some games, like Wii Sports, where your own Miis are the bowlers, pitchers, batters, boxers, tennis players or even part of the crowd. The Mii Channel includes all the tools needed to create a Mii, which include picking your face size and shape, colour of skin, shape and size of eyes, nose, mouth, different hair options, facial hair, expressions and more. Miis can be stored on the Wiimote so the owner could take them, for example, to a friend's house, so their Miis could play bowling together.
    
  • Virtual Console Channel- This is where you play all 'retro' games for the NES, SNES, N64, TurboGrafx-16 or Genesis, which can be bought through the Shop Channel. You can also appoint different games to be channels by themselves.
    
  • Shop Channel- Here you can buy Wii Points, a currency for acquiring rights to download new features like Virtual Console games or internet browsers. The price of games is as follows:
    NES: 500 points.
    TurboGrafx-16: 600 points.
    SNES and Sega Genesis: 800 points.
    N64: 1000 points.
    The price for Wii Points is different in every region. Some prices for 100 Wii Points are $1 USD in the USA and €1 EUR in the Eurozone.
    
  • Photo Channel- This is where you can edit and show photos on the SD card you inserted into the Wii or received by Email to the Wii. There are several features to this channel including a puzzle feature where your photos turn into jigsaw puzzles, a mosaic of photos and photo editing tools.
    
  • Message Board- The message board serves several purposes. First of all, you can leave messages for family members, other Wii owners, cell-phones or email addresses. Secondly, Nintendo announces news through the board. Finally, the board records play-time information for archival purposes.
  Thanks to WiiConnect24, more Channels can be easily added. Some Channels that have already been announced are the Weather Channel, News Channel and Internet Channel.

Properties

• CPU: Codenamed Broadway. Clocked at 729Mhz. (unconfirmed)
  
• GPU: Codenamed Hollywood. Clocked at 243Mhz. (unconfirmed)
  
• Memory: 88MB of internal memory with another 3MB of texutre-dedicated memory.
  
• Ports:
  • Up to four Wiimotes connected wirelessly via Bluetooth.
    
  • SD memory card slot
    
  • Two USB2.0 ports
    
  • One Sensor Bar port
    
  • A peripheral port on every Wiimote
    
  • Four Gamecube controller ports and two Gamecube memory card ports
  
  
• Storage options: SD card, built-in 512MB flash memory, Gamecube memory cards (only compatible with Gamecube games), 8cm Gamecube DVD, 12cm Wii DVD.
  
• Video: Up to 480p(NTSC) or 576i (PAL/SECAM), standard 4:3 and 16:9 anamorphic widescreen. Can use Component (including Progressive scan), RGB SCART, S-Video, composite output, or D-Terminal.
  
• Audio: The Wii is capable of Dolby Pro Logic II pseudo-surround installments. Also, the Wiimote features a low-quality speaker of its own.

Notable Games

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
  In the next chapter in the Legend of Zelda series, Link can transform into a wolf to scour the darkened land of Hyrule. With the help of Midna, a mysterious being, you must guide Link through hordes of foul creatures and challenging bosses using new moves and a new horseback combat system. Many puzzles stand between Link and the fulfillment of his quest, so you must sharpen your wits as you hunt for weapons and items.
  Average review score: 95%.
  
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  Trauma Center: Second Opinion is NOT a quick-and-dirty port of the DS title "Trauma Center: Under the Knife." It has new graphics and animation; new surgical implements and operation types; a second playable character with new missions; multiple difficulty modes; and a revised control system that takes full advantage of the Wii Remote. It's a remake (or "Wii-make," if you prefer) with gobs of added content. As with Under the Knife, the voice acting in Second Opinion is presented in the operation scenes to enhance the drama and punctuate the action.
  Average review score: 84%.
  
• Madden NFL '07
  With the exclusive video game license of the NFL and its players, and currently in its 17th installment, Madden NFL 07 puts you in control the running game like never before. For the first time ever, step up as the lead blocker to create a hole, and then take control of the tailback and smash through, overpower, or slash away from would-be tacklers as you fight for every yard. Innovative rushing controls give you a game-breaking ground attack featuring all-new jukes, cutbacks, and the distinct running styles of your favorite backs. Conceived as an entirely original football experience on the Wii, the game puts players on the field like never before. Using the console's unique remote to pass, kick, snap, throw, catch and run, players interact with the game in an entirely new way. Boasting massive gameplay innovations inspired by the motion sensor of the remote, Madden NFL 07 maximizes the power and unique design of the game system.
  Average review score: 84%.
  
• Rayman Raving Rabbid
  Rayman Raving Rabbids marks the return of the iconic video-game hero, Rayman, in his funniest and zaniest adventure ever. When the world of Rayman is threatened by a devastating invasion of crazed, out-of-control bunnies Rayman must rise up against his furry foes to foil their wicked plans. Utilizing an array of amazing new abilities, and with the help of magical creatures, Rayman must break out all the moves to save his world from these delirious bunnies and their hare-raising antics. Combat the Ultra-Crazed Evil Rabbits – Take control of Rayman and his knack for attack to help save his world from the raving rabbids. They are mischievous, insane and completely out of control. There are several types of rabbids each with its own mischievous characteristics. Tame and control various creatures such as sharks, eagles, rhinos, spiders and angelfish. Rayman can master each animal's unique capabilities to help in his battle against the devious rabbits. Customize and disguise Rayman. Go punk, pop, rock or hip hop to infiltrate the bunnies and foil their devious plans. Explore amazing free-roaming environments and beautiful epic landscapes that mix real and fantastical styles to create a visually stunning experience.
  Average review score: 79%.
  
• Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  In the next installment to the all-out brawler, it is rumoured you will be able to take your fights online! As yet unreleased with a tentative shipping date of 2007, this game is confirmed to include old favourites like Link, Kirby, Pikachu and Fox, but have new characters including Zero-Suit Samus, Wario, Metaknight and even the famous Solid Snake.
  
• Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
  If you think you knew what it felt like to be the bounty hunter behind the visor, think again. Take aim at evil with Nintendo's revolutionary controller. Players control Samus by moving with the Nunchuk controller and aiming with the pointer, allowing for a level of immersion unlike anything they have ever experienced. Through the eyes of Samus, players experience a quantum leap in first-person control as they wield the Wii Remote, the ultimate device for the first-person shooter genre. Samus employs well-known power-ups like the Grapple Beam and Morph Ball, as well as a bunch of new surprises, to help her survive her coming trials. Saving the planets from Corruption isn't enough, though. Eventually, players must take down Samus' mortal enemy, Dark Samus.

Thanks to Breserk for this super topic first post.

Nice. Won't Metroid Prime 3 and Super Smash Bros 3 IIRC be launch titles? If so you could mention that in the games list along with any other confirmed launch titles.

Hmm. Ok.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Since the beginning, I've always wanted a Revolution

w-ninja officially approves this, uh, official thread.

The revolution will not be televised.

Killing Day is confirmed for the Revolution?!

That right there shows the Rev. is gonna have some gfx power. (not like it matters more than the controller)

CPU: Codenamed "Broadway". Developed by Intel. I think it's IBM who's developing the CPU!!!!!

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I knew I forgot something: Launch related details.

I'll make sure to add it later.

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Apparently it is, yep. Thats not to say it cannot be cancelled, or graphically reduced to meet the system specifications.

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You are absolutely correct. My error. Fixing it now.

Wasn't Project IM confirmed for the Rev?

Smokey21, on Dec 7 2005, 09:31 AM, said:

What is this Project IM and where can I find it?

Seeing those specs, it is quite obvious that Nintendo is not going into the HD race between 360 and PS3. They are playing it safe, and Im ok with that. As long as they pump out fun games with at least the visuals of a Gamecube, Ill be satisfied. No need for this photorealistic crap.

Project IM

Seems this game is only going to be for PS3 and Xbox 360..Sure does look purty.

Smokey21, on Dec 6 2005, 02:31 PM, said:

No just X360 and PS3 I believe

http://revolution.ig...3/673578p1.html wow Nintendo....atleast make a console that's going to be enjoyable to look at on a comp screen(which they confirmed itll do)

Project IM will also be on the PC.

Edit: Great thread! Finally!

since my thread got closed:

ign just posted an article on the REV and just WOW, in a good and bad way.
http://revolution.ig...3/673799p1.html

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that is Fing cheap

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thats not that bad, since i dont care about graphics to much.

this console is going to be the cheapest console for sure, i just cant see sony topping that
or even topping MS

i just thought of something, if the console is that cheap how much are the games going to be?

http://hardware.game...4-4-C-9400-9396

I thought this page was interesting to look at. Comparing the Gamecube specs to the last generation N64's.
If what IGN is saying now, that the Revolution's specs are about double GCN's then I'm not really too worried about graphics. It obviously wont be quite the incremental jump we saw from N64 to GCN but it'll still be pretty good.

Vive la revolution!

When it comes to graphics I just think of a few GCN titles.

Resident Evil 4 and Rogue Squadron 3 spring to mind.

Imagining them with twice the amount of pixel shading and normal maps, twice the amount of polygons, twice the amount of textures and texture resolution...well, it really does not bother me at all.

128MB of T1-SRAM mmmmmmmmmmmmshweeeet

That area already beats the rest. You can't judge a Nintendo console by its hardware specs though, because Nintendo hardware always manages to do amazing stuff with very little recourses. It's called good engineering. Something those goons at Microsoft never seem to have heard of before.

I remember this article written by a few tech wizards who couldn't understand how the Cube was able to pump out such nice graphics with such low specs. Where they went wrong is comparing the Cube's hardware to that of a PC, or that of an Xbox. The sweet thing about Nintendo hardware however, is how everything is perfectly attuned. The sound, the input, the graphics, the data input, etc. All made for one single purpose; gaming. If you want to make your hardware compatible with certain apps in order to make it a home entertainment system, your gaming performance will seriously drop. One of the reasons why the Cube didn't have a hard drive or all that other needles hardware Microsoft and Sony invested in.

And again, while Sony and Microsoft are pushing for this "HD", Nintendo goes all out for the games. Goes to show where a company loyalty lies. The only reason Sony and Microsoft have such a huge boner for HD is because simple people get so impressed when they see an HD feed on a 52" tv. Considering the fact that it is pretty useless to buy an HD tv until you get HD broadcasts and mainstream HD DVDs, those people are just being swiped by shiny stuff and good marketing. That is, if HD makes it. It might die at the hands of other technology. If that occurs, Sony and Microsoft are *******ed.

That's why Nintendo isn't investing in technology that isn't yet a standard, and barely used. How many people do you know who have an HDTV and actually watch HD streams on it?

Man... After reading all this. I can't wait to get my hands on the Revolution. Especially with that price tag :-/

And not to talk about all those exclusive titels.......
whooooooooooo
i wub j00 revoooo

Zhiwu, on Dec 7 2005, 03:14 AM, said:

That would be true if HD was a product, but it isn't. It is a broadcast standard. Which consumers have no input in.

it would be nice though if HD was supported.... anybody here tried linking up 8 gamecubes for a massive double dahs mario kart race? i linked up 4! it was awesome!

oh yeah and eveyr hardcore revolution fan should put

Viva la nintendo revolution in their sig!

A z T e X, on Dec 7 2005, 12:45 PM, said:

I'll put Viva la Revolution!

EatChildren, on Dec 7 2005, 07:10 AM, said:

With the unique controller, unique games and a low price tag! I like it, as long as everything works smoothly.

VN1X, on Dec 7 2005, 09:31 AM, said:

I know, the price tag is gonna be a HUGE selling point

Cant wait till i can pre-order it so i know ill be getting it

stephendedalus, on Dec 7 2005, 12:15 PM, said:

It's not a broadcast standard yet, and it won't be one for many years. Other, more advanced technology might come along. You see, getting an HD signal in everyone's living room ain't exactly a very cheap thing. HD has been in the run for a few years now. It's one of my jobs to market HD technology. I see people every day who are very hesitant towards it. Sure, it sells easily to idiots. Just show them a 52" projection, plasma or lcd tv with an HD stream and it's sold. But people who actually know what they want are very hesitant towards it. The most prudent comment is: "why should I buy something that I won't be able to use fully for the next five or so years to come?" And it's a very just question as well. CRT Trinitron technology is now one the best choice you have in TV. I own one myself. It's more than half the price of an HD ready tv, and I get to use it to its full potential. I'll buy an HDTV when the signal coming out of my wall is actual HD, or at least when HD/progressive scan DVDs become a standard.

Zhiwu, on Dec 7 2005, 06:08 PM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the first HD broadcast World Cup 2006?

killing day looked sick

I wouldn't be so uppity about the pricetag.
Try looking at some of Nintendo's recent and past stuff.
They love tag-ons. Love them. There's no denying it. And with their recent appriciation for the "Buy this tag-on or the game just won't be any good" (Donkey Jungle Beat...) won't help things much
And now that they have a controller that basically welcomes tag-ons (with the bottom slot) I can definatly see the price ramping up

http://gamesindustry...e.php?aid=13482

Mostly a repeat of IGN's news. But now there's reports of 96MB of 1T-SRAM and a few megs here and there for other stuff (no mention of D-RAM at all, but D-RAM may be used here for this other stuff) with 3MB for a frame buffer for the video card. There is no information about the GPU yet.

The 512MB of flash memory is unaccessible to developers besides saves it seems.

Updated with some minor hoo-haa here and there.

Nintendo's List of classics that will be available for download on Revolution.
Now remember there will be more this list just shows What just Nintendo is going to offer.
This info came from Famitsu Magazine in Japan.
Some of the games are still on the fence since some companies that have some rights on games might not allow them to be on the rev.


1. 10-Yard Fight
2. Anticipation
3. Balloon Fight
4. Barker Bill's Trick Shooting
5. Baseball
6. Clu Clu Land
7. Dance Aerobics
8. Devil World
9. Doki Doki Panic
10. Donkey Kong
11. Donkey Kong 3
12. Donkey Kong Classics
13. Donkey Kong Jr.
14. Donkey Kong Jr. Math
15. Dr. Mario
16. Dragon Warrior
17. Duck Hunt
18. Excitebike
19. Famicom Wars
20. Final Fantasy
21. Fire Emblem Gaiden
22. Fire Emblem: Ankokuryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi
23. Flintstones: The Rescue of Dino and Hoppy
24. Golf
25. Gum Shoe
26. Gyromite
27. Hogan's Alley
28. Ice Climber
29. Ice Hockey
30. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
31. Kid Icarus
32. Kirby's Adventure
33. Kung Fu
34. Mach Rider
35. Mario Bros.
36. Mario Time Machine
37. Mario is Missing!
38. Mario:Fun with Letters
39. Mario:Fun with Numbers
40. Metroid
41. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
42. Mother (Earthbound)
43. NES Open Golf
44. Nintendo World Cup
45. Nuts & Milk
46. Pin-Bot
47. Pinball
48. Play Action Football
49. Popeye
50. Pro Wrestling
51. Punch-Out!!
52. R.C. Pro-Am
53. Rad Racer
54. Rad Racer 2
55. Short Order/Eggsplode
56. Slalom
57. Snake Rattle & Roll
58. Soccer
59. Stack Up
60. Star Tropics
61. Super Mario Bros.
62. Super Mario Bros. 2
63. Super Mario Bros. 2: The Lost Levels
64. Super Mario Bros. 3
65. Super Spike V'Ball/World Cup Soccer
66. Super Team Games
67. Tennis
68. Tetris
69. Tetris 2
70. The Legend of Zelda
71. To The Earth
72. Track meet
73. Urban Champion
74. Volleyball
75. Wario's Woods
76. Wild Gunman
77. World Class Track Meet
78. World Cup Soccer
79. Wrecking Crew
80. Yoshi (Mario & Yoshi)
81. Yoshi's Cookie
82. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
83. Zoda's Revenge: Star Tropics II



Super-NES


84. Derby Stallion 98
85. Donkey Kong Country
86. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest
87. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
88. Earthbound
89. F-Zero
90. FX Fighter
91. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo
92. Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu
93. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776
94. Hyper V-Ball
95. Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball
96. Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run
97. Killer Instinct
98. Kirby Super Star
99. Kirby's Avalanche
100. Kirby's Dream Course
101. Kirby's Dream Land 3
102. Kirby's Ghost Trap
103. Legend
104. Mario Paint
105. Mario and Wario
106. Mario's Early Years: Preschool Fun
107. Mario's Super Picross
108. Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge
109. NCAA Basketball
110. NHL Stanley Cup
111. Panel de Pon
112. Picross NP Vol. 8
113. PilotWings
114. Shigesato Itoi's No. 1 Bass Fishing
115. Sound Fantasy
116. Star Fox
117. Stunt Race FX
118. Super Famicom Wars
119. Super Mario Kart
120. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
121. Super Mario World
122. Super Metroid
123. Super Punch-Out!!
124. Super Scope 6
125. Super Soccer
126. Super Soccer 2
127. Super Tennis
128. Tetris & Dr. Mario
129. Tetris Attack
130. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
131. Tinstar
132. Uniracers (Unirally, the game sucked bad you raced unicycles with no rider)
133. Winter Gold (FX Skiing)
134. World League Baseball
135. Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2
136. Yoshi's Safari



Nintendo 64


137. 1080° Snowboarding
138. Animal Crossing
139. Banjo-Kazooie
140. Banjo-Tooie
141. Blast Corps
142. Bomberman 64
143. Bomberman Hero
144. Buggie Boogie
145. Cabbage
146. Catroots
147. Climber
148. Command & Conquer
149. Creator
150. Cruis'n USA
151. Cruis'n World
152. Cu-On-Pa
153. Custom Robo
154. Custom Robo V2
155. DD Sequencer
156. Dezaemon DD
157. Diddy Kong Racing
158. Donkey Kong 64
159. Doubutsu Banchou
160. Dr. Mario 64
161. Echo-Delta
162. Emperor of the Jungle
163. Excitebike 64
164. F-Zero X
165. Gendai Dai-Senryaku: Ultimate War
166. GoldenEye 007
167. Hey You, Pikachu!
168. Jack and the Beanstalk
169. Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest
170. Killer Instinct Gold
171. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
172. Kirby's Air Ride
173. Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside
174. Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr
175. Mario Golf
176. Mario Kart 64
177. Mario Party
178. Mario Party 2
179. Mario Party 3
180. Mario Tennis 64
181. Mickey's Speedway USA
182. Mini Racers
183. Mischief Makers
184. Mysterious Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer 2
185. NBA Courtside 2: Featuring Kobe Bryant
186. Paper Mario
187. Perfect Dark
188. Pilotwings 64
189. Pokemon Puzzle League
190. Pokemon Snap
191. Pokemon Stadium
192. Pokemon Stadium 2
193. Pokemon Stadium: Gold, Silver, Crystal Version
194. Ridge Racer 64
195. Riqa
196. Shigesato Itoi's No. 1 Bass Fishing
197. Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth
198. Star Fox 64
199. Star Wars Episode I: Racer
200. Star Wars: Battle for Naboo
201. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
202. StarCraft 64
203. Super Mario 64
204. Super Smash Bros.
205. Tetrisphere
206. The Legend of Zelda DD (Ura Zelda, Master Quest)
207. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
208. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
209. The New Tetris
210. Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics
211. Wall Street DD
212. Wave Race 64
213. Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey
214. Yoshi's Story

Quinn, on Dec 8 2005, 02:40 AM, said:

Nooo!! Where's Bigfoot for NES?!?! I wish you could insert NES catridges in the Revolution...

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If that is from an older Famitsu magazine, and was reported quite some time a go, then if I'm correct it was a list of expected and speculated games and was in no form an official list from Nintendo.

I have to say it, if not just to get this thread going but it's also the truth:

Nintendo makes games for the younger generation, ie kiddies, (14 and below). Sure there are the select few (re4/metroid), but if you're still playing Mario past age 18, you have serious nostalgia issues. Don't get me wrong I loved Game Boy and NES, when I was in Elementary school.



PS. Zelda sucks.

Weezy dont bring that crap Nintendo is for kids crap.

Also by the way i am 19 and i have:
Gamecube
Snes
N64
Gameboy Micro
Playstation
PS2
Xbox 360
PSP
Nintendo DS
Do you think i have nostalgia issues?

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Yes, but this list is most likey what will be offered since this is only Nintendo first party titles.


Edit:
Yeah just take the pre rage some where else... Saying that Zelda sucks is like saying GTA sucks.

zelda sux. haha jk jk

cant wait to get all the super mario games and starcraft 64... looks like a goood selection to me, cant wait.

weezy, on Dec 7 2005, 07:20 PM, said:

Honestly, none of us care, because this is a place to discuss the Revolution. You have said nothing about the Revolution in your post and because of that, it is off-topic.

If you have nothing good or useful to contribute to this thread, please do not post here again.








If it's of any relevance, Reggie has stated that games will be easy to port to the Revolution.

http://1up.com/do/ne...ory?cId=3146171

I'd like to note, specifically to people like you weezy, that I do not want any "NInteNDo is for KIDZ LOLOL" rubbish in here please. It leads to debates, arguments, flaming, and this is place for good fun Revolution discussion.

If you think Nintendo is for kids make a new thread about it and debate it there. Thank you.

In relation to that, could people who enjoy Nintendo please ignore those sorts of comments. Keep is civil.

weezy, on Dec 7 2005, 08:20 PM, said:

Says the 15 year old who plays on his xbox and wanks to halo.

weezy, on Dec 8 2005, 04:20 AM, said:

I'm 22 and I spent all day at work yesterday playing Advanced Wars Dual Strike on my Nintendo DS. I know a bunch of people of my age and older, both male and female who above all games, choose to play the Mario Party games. "Kiddies" these days are too pre-occupied with being "cool" and "badass" to play Nintendo. Kids these days can't get enough of their shiny graphics and their GTA style of video games. I happen to find the majority of M rated games rather childish.

Zhiwu, on Dec 7 2005, 01:08 PM, said:

It is in fact a broadcast standard set forth by the NTSC. 1080i is the standard for HD broadcasts. There is no other technology that will come to usurp the HD standard... because it isn't a technology. It isn't like the war between Betamax and VHS, you don't have a choice as to which one you will purchase. The FCC will choose the broadcast standard and you will go with or not watch television... so I don't see how a new technology could come along and beat out HD, when for one it isn't a technology, and two, the FCC has made it pretty clear that all broadcast will be in HD by 2007.

Look at The Telecommunications Act of 1996... where it explicitly states the following:

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Notice the part where it says '1920x1080' and 'All TV's must recieve all of these digital formats and display them suitably'.

stephendedalus, on Dec 8 2005, 07:41 AM, said:

HD is just a resolution and an fps count. I can see where you're coming from when you say it's not a technology. However, the encoding of the video, and the cables used to bring this signal to your living room are technology. That's why HD is directly linked to a technology. If better encoding, or a new way to transmit large chunks of data are made available, don't you think they might just change these standards? And what would the TV you've recently bought be worth?

However, I'm not sure how easy it would be to change an Act on such a matter. I was talking about HD broadcasting in Europe, and I'm fairly sure HD won't be a fact here for at least 5 years to come. At least not for the majority.

Zhiwu, on Dec 8 2005, 12:12 PM, said:

I didn't know you were in Europe, so I can't really say anything about that.

The standards wont change though, the FCC, or the European equivalent wont just go and arbitrarily change that. Your HDTV that you just bought will still work with all of the future broadcasts, because it must.

I WANT A REV NOW.

Even though I'd mostly use it to play N64 games that I wished I still owned....

weezy, on Dec 8 2005, 03:20 AM, said:

Zelda: Ocarina of Time was and is still the highest rated video game ever made according to the top 10 list at Gamerankings..

http://www.gameranki....asp?rankings=y

Return_of_Glenn, on Dec 8 2005, 02:57 PM, said:

yeah, and 3 of the top 5 are Nintendo games
yeah, no.

Caste, on Dec 8 2005, 09:03 PM, said:

..What? Gamerankings is a compilation site. The scores you see in that list are for all internet/publication reviews combined and averaged. Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the highest rated game ever made when all independant reviews are averaged. The other Nintendo titles you see in the list are also averages from lots of different sites combined. Nintendo made 3 of the top 5 highest rated videogames ever made. What say ye?

Just some random Revolution news.

EA's recent comments on the Revolution, Nintendo, and its controller:

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Nintendo's comments regarding the suspected lower tech specs:

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Jim Merrick is returning to the US for a bigger position (he's been doing partime Nintendo stuff in Europe):

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Source: http://revolution.ign.com

Return_of_Glenn, on Dec 9 2005, 02:46 AM, said:

Frankly i dont believe what it says...

Its too patchy for a game that old to be number 1 but Resident Evil 4 to be in twice for bot 'Cube on PS2.

too many holes in it

EDIT: And obviously HL2 should be higher than 7th

HotGore, on Dec 8 2005, 05:23 AM, said:

LOL, good HotGore

EDIT: Thanks for the heads-up EatChildren! keep it up.

Nintendo Revolution: $500
3 Extra controllers: $120
214 great games: free

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It won't cost near $500, unless Nintendo have made some major lies. They are going for a very cheap system, and people expect at the most US$200.

I'd also like to note, that it is very strongly speculated that the analogue stick add-on will come with the console. Considering that will likely be the most widely used add-on, you wont have to dish out extra money for it.

A z T e X, on Dec 9 2005, 02:40 PM, said:

214 great games for free ?
Who told you that ?

Oh yeah, should have mentioned that.

AzTeX, the downloadable games will not be free. Some, I suspect, will be. Like the really, really old ones (NES and probably most SNES). I also suspect plenty will be avaliable through deals and competitions. You know, stuff like "Buy Super Smash Bros Revolution and download the original N64 game for free."

Other than that, Nintendo have stated that there will be small charges for downloading the content.

What do you guys think that second (Secret) feature meight be from the controller?

It suck i live in the UK...

Like the last country to get it

Makes me so mad

VN1X, on Dec 10 2005, 12:55 AM, said:

In terms of game play I have no idea. I did not see the whole "3D Interaction" thing coming at all, as the closest guess I had at the time was "Gyroscopic Controlling". I guess I was kind of right, but this pretty much is that plus a billion better things.

A small part of me suspects the controller might be able to interact with other appliances. Like your TV, your DVD player, your CD player. Kind of like one of those all purpose remotes. There are a lot of things to point against it, such as the lack of buttons on the damn thing, but it would not be a half bad marketing move.

Not only would you get the console, but it would literally act as a media hub without using console resources. One controller for everything you own.

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Nintendo have spoken about aiming for a very close world-wide launch. If that pulls through then you will be up and running and online as quickly as everyone else.

EatChildren, on Dec 9 2005, 03:08 PM, said:

Hmm... Well IMO that wouldn't be a very cool feature. I'd rather have something more that has something to do with the Console and gameplay itself.

Oh well we'll see! :)

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I would too. I see what I thought of as useful, but its not something I personally care about. I'd much rather a gameplay feature, but something like what I mentioned would be a decent marketing move. Where Xbox and PS3 are doing multimedia, Nintendo could say that instead of using the console for direct multimedia use, it has the ability to control other products.

Kind of a cheap way of saying "Our console can be used to play DVDs, control the TV, and even play CD Players!" without actually doing it.

I'll be wrong though.

EatChildren, on Dec 9 2005, 02:08 PM, said:

nah, that doesnt really sound anything at all like what nintendo is aiming for. their aiming for seperating those things from the gaming experience, so to create a peripheral that would interact with all of those things...just seems off. but hey, thanks for specualting, cause i have no freakn clue anymore, nintendo tricks me everytime.

Pillsy, on Dec 9 2005, 11:50 AM, said:

What part of "Collects the average scores from every website and publication" don't you understand?

And HL2 should be higher than 7th? Why? Maybe if reviewers had given it a higher rating, it would be.

From Boomtown:

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Now, I don't care if the graphics power is immense, as long as the gameplay is good. The reason I am buying the Revolution is because it is something new. Im bored of the same controllers, the same way of playing games. Plus it is cheaper than the others and I can download some great classic games aswell.

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Thats the intention.

Many people have got up and complained about this poor graphics speculation, but the reality is Nintendo have downplayed the raw hardware power of the Revolution before they even showed any of it at E3. In other words, all the complaining about low specs is a little late.

There will definately be problems with porting games over (unless they are graphically reduced), but as Nintendo have stated the system is not built to compete directly with Microsoft and Sony. I will likely end up buying a PS3 or X360 later in life purely for traditional console gaming. If a good variety of games never make it to the Revolution, but stay on one of those consoles, I see no point excluding myself from them.

But I'll be getting a Revolution regardless just to experiance the new games.

EatChildren, on Dec 9 2005, 05:20 PM, said:

And the old retro ones!

EatChildren, on Dec 9 2005, 10:20 AM, said:

That's an excellent point. I wish more people could see it that way.

it make me sad that all you guys are thinking what the "Dev" kits specs are what the final rev specs are going to be to me it sounds like the Xbox 360 here is why when all the games for the 360 where shown all the dev kits that they were made on where running at 1/3 of the ture power of the 360 so what makes you think that it would not be the same for nintendo

plus do really think game makers are going to tell what the ture power of the rev is i think nintendo made them keep there month closed till they come out with the offical specs i think nintendo is trying to make people think one thing and then be shocked when they found out all the power it will have

by the way it should have a HDD because of all the NES SNES N64 games you can download

RenegadeY2K5, on Dec 9 2005, 06:10 PM, said:

Well i definitly hope so (About the spec part). And it wil obviously have a HDD. The only thing we need to know is how much storage capacity it has?

That my friends is the question that drives us...

VN1X, on Dec 10 2005, 01:33 AM, said:

If it does have a HDD, it has to be *at the least* in the 20-30gb range. Any lower and thats just cheap of em. In terms of the console itself, I was originally totally anti-revolution controller, but now after reading about it more, it seems quite alright to me. Hell im even gonna buy myself a Revolution now.

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No-one knows the "truth" as to whether or not it is under powered, and no-one here is claiming to know. I, personally, am not going to say the graphics will blow. If it can pump out graphics twice as good as Resident Evil 4, StarFox Adventures, and Rogue Squadron 3, I have absolutely no fuss with the graphics. If the specs are what is speculated (haha...erhm) then thats how good it will be.

However, as Nintendo have said, the hardware power will not be on the same page as the other two consoles. I'm not going to sit and think the graphics will suck, but I'm not going to hold on to shreds of 'hope' that they will be ultra high end. I'll only put myself up for possible (and in my opinion, likely) dissapointment.

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Nintendo is making people keep their mouths shut by forcing NDAs upon them. But things get leaked and people talk. If developers are saying "It's not on the same end as the PS3" then it likely is not. Remember, Nintendo have stated that Revolution game development can be started on GameCube devkits, because they are similar.

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It has small and upgradable flash storage. I suspect a HDD large storage device will come as an add-on in the future, but for now I'm conetent with the current storage. The games wont be free, so its not likely you'll jump online and download all of them.

This thread has made me really excited for the Revolution. Thanks for making it. Nice to have all of the information in one place so that we all don't have to go searching for it in the dark recesses of the internet.

stephendedalus, on Dec 10 2005, 01:44 AM, said:

The cold....dark internet...with those horrible adultfriend finder ads and...and FKNING SLOTCHBAR INSTALLAZ! arrrr. Anyways, is it true that the Revolution remote actually slots into an ordinary controller? Im sure ive seen a pic of some such system...somewhere.

stephendedalus, on Dec 9 2005, 06:44 PM, said:

Yeah same here... Because of this thread i want the Revolution even more! I love all this speculating.

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There is a picture of what your talking about over at IGN, but it was their own mock-up image. Nothing official in the slightest.

However, it is a mock-up of what Nintendo have said. They have stated that they will be releasing a "shell" of the GCN controller (probably a little altered as well) which the Rev's remote will slot in to.

Normally, you'd think this would just be a way for people without a GCN controller to play GCN games (and others) with wireless ability. But think about it. With this you have all the functions of a normal GCN controller, plus the whole "3D" thing with it. I'm sure games could take advantage of that.

EDIT: Thanks for the kind comments. I plan on updating it with any Revolution news that I fall on, small and large. This thread has reminded me that I'm a Nintendo nerd though.

Nothing bad with being a Nintendo nerd. Iam a Nintendo fanboy at heart! :)

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Actually the Rev. has 2 USB ports on the back, so in theory it is possable to hook up an external Hard drive and use that. I remember them saying that it wouldn't have a HDD some where, but IGN has said that the USB ports could be used for that.

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I knew about the USB ports (they are listed in the spec list in the main post) but thanks for bringing that up, it never clicked with me. USB external HDDs would be easily possible.

EatChildren, on Dec 9 2005, 12:59 PM, said:

I think he's talking about this pic:

http://cubemedia.ign...19020546288.jpg

USB ports would allow you to copy save files to and from the console. It's actually possible with the Cube too, using some kind of adapter.

w-ninja, on Dec 9 2005, 09:17 PM, said:

Bluetooth would be nicer though. I despise USB.

Blue-tooth could be cool yeah. But when you've got a external HDD that would be a problem or ? wouldn't it?.

VN1X, on Dec 9 2005, 10:04 PM, said:

FireWire 800, would solve that provlem friend.

FireWire 800 is ?

VN1X, on Dec 9 2005, 10:07 PM, said:

Twice as good as FireWire 400 and poops all over USB 2.0's lack of stability and speed.

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I guess with that and the flash disk it would also be possible for those without an internet connection (or those with slow non-wireless conneciton) to experiance any downloadable content.

Simply go over to someones house with high speed internet, download it to your USB Storage or Flash Disk, and pop it on the console. It would also be helpful for those with slower (dialup) connections, as they could spend time downloading the file and still use it.

An interview with Jeffrey Kalles, former employee of Nintendo of America (might be Slashdotted at the moment)

It's a very long interview, but here's something interesting:

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Not a very legit looking site.....

AJER, on Dec 11 2005, 10:55 PM, said:

Yes, I'm 100% certain that they completely made up the entire interview and voice acted it too.

w-ninja, on Dec 11 2005, 09:19 PM, said:

I agree.

S3xorZ, on Dec 11 2005, 09:21 PM, said:

I think he was being sarcastic dude.

Actually I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic

benwalker007, on Dec 11 2005, 10:29 PM, said:

That was the intension dude. Don't worry though next time w-ninja will put ''[/Sarcasm]'' at the end of his post.

EDIT: btw Thanks for the info w-ninja. Iam listening to the interview as we speak! I could care less about the graphics though... if its on par with the 360 iam good. I just want to get SSB:M3 online!.

i think the last time they said anything about storage was 512 of flash memory and SD upgadeable..... hopefully they chuck a hard drive in, that would be suhweet!

A z T e X, on Dec 12 2005, 12:26 PM, said:

A Hard Drive would be sweet like.

Cheers for the info w-ninja!

Edit: as in the interview

Honestly, I don't expect the hardware to be ultra powerful in terms of graphics. Nintendo have downplayed it so I choose not to believe otherwise, but on the same note it does not bother me in the slightest. I'm happy about it actually, as they are truly focusing on gameplay and features.

However, Nintendo have played down the graphics for nearly all their hardware I believe. The GameCube was never ever hyped to be an ultra powerful graphics machine, yet games like RS3 and RE4 easily look as good as any PS2 and Xbox title.

We'll just have to wait.

Question: Would people like me to add links to interviews and articles of great interst to the main post? I would only link ones that are quite interesting and no topic with discussions, much like the one W-Ninja posted.

EatChildren, on Dec 12 2005, 01:39 PM, said:

If you would like to ? Please do so!. Everything that has to do with the Revolution please post here people. We can use this as our base of operations ;)

Don't know if you've seen this, but it's interesting none the less.

http://news.portalit...lities_953.html

http://nintendo-revo...ast-secret.html

similar to above post, lil more indepth. it seems that although nintendo might have less raw graphical power, they are looking for ways to do more with it. touche nintendo.

Very kewl kreemachine

Very cool.

I trust Nintendo to bring out an amazing system.

Smokey21, on Dec 12 2005, 10:16 PM, said:

I most definitely agree. I admit I am a bit of a graphics monger but games today are getting to a point where I can't really complain about anything anymore. 3d games since saturn I have always had a ton of things that I thought were messed up about the graphics. Since then the number has dwindled down to two things.
1) More realistic shadows (self shadows, REAL soft shadows, dynamic shadows)
2) More realistic lighting (full dynamic lighting, proper reflection/refraction, much more advanced radiosity)

Those seem to be coming along just fine and should be implemented in the coming years. Models and textures have come to a point where becoming any better would hardly be noticable without the implementation of newer technological advances not related to graphics such as physics and overall environment interaction.

Graphics really won't be an issue in games much longer (well, as big of an issue as it is today) and nintendo caught that ahead of the game.

News: Revolutions graphics not teh suxzor?

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Source: http://www.joystiq.c...34000137067675/

Mark Rein is one of the head honchos over at Epic and his comments on the Revolution have not exactly been...positive (or nice for that matter).

I'll let you read the brief article for yourselves, but lets just say he had a complete turn around on opinions, and even said a comment or two which promotes the graphical power of the Revolution.

EatChildren, on Dec 14 2005, 05:10 AM, said:

Wow. I didn't see that coming. Although he hasn't confirmed anything, but there is a chance!

But on the other hand UE3 could run on a little bit older hardware as well so the graphics won't be looking that good. But we already know and accept that REV's graphics won't be the best. If the REV can handle UE3, importing other UE3 using game to REV could be faster. That means more 3rd party support.

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I agree. Even if it can run UE3 on lower settings than the other two consoles it is more open to 3rd party support from those developers that plan on using UE3 (like Bioware, for example).

omgorz I can't wait to play Mario on mah Revolution!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ripcurl682, on Dec 8 2005, 05:24 PM, said:

Banjo Tooie! I waited for years to play that and it came out so close to the death of the 64 I never got it, plus it was like £50 for aaaages! Does anyone remember all the hints about that at the end of Banjo Kazooie? Everyone thought they were joking about the name back then!

Turtles in time FTW That's the first game I'm downloading.

Wonder how much the entire game library will cost for all nes/snes/64 games....hmmm

All this talk about the Revolution having far more better graphics then expected is making me want the system more and more and more and more and more...

I mean can you imagne ? UT2007 on the Rev. with that controller ?
...Man iam wetting myself.

Wow. The Revolution's only going to be THAT much at launch? Nintendo blows serious balls.




















*cough*I'll take one.*cough*

I'm soooo looking forward to the Revolution! Only a few months to go till we all know for sure

Some random comments recently spoken from Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-Aime.

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Im no longer sure what system I want, crap man, every time I think ive decided on one, I get sent for a loop again. Id really love the downloading old games things, as long as theres a hard drive. It all depends on if they bring over some of the cool franchises like Burnout and NHL 2k series.

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You won't downloading any games past the N64, at least I don't think so. Seems a tad illogical for them to put extremely large games up for download when the console is backwards compatable with the media in the first place (GameCube mini-dvds).

I think the only downloadable titles will be from the NES to the N64. Oh, and the "standard" flash card size would not even fit a GameCube game.

EDIT: Now that I think about it you probably were not talking about downloading those titles. My mistake.

Oh, thats alright then, i mean nes and super nes games cant be more than a megabyte or so, and n64 were about 20 megs if i remember correctly.

Id love to play james bond on a Rev, especially if it had higher Res

Chris Morris of CNN Money says: Revolution rocks for FPS action

Chris Morris over at CNN Money got his hands on the Nintendo’s Revolution controller and took it for a spin. Even though it was a near final prototype, he seemed to like, especially noting that it gave him a whole new edge in console FPS action, which was never a strong point of his. That experience is shared by Nintendo’s own president, Satoru Iwata, stating: “I’ve never been able to control a first-person shooter, but as soon as I used the Revolution controller, I found it very easy to control the game.” The truth comes out! Iwata expects the controller to become the standard for video games, and that it could bridge the gap between gamers and non gamers. The article goes on to predict a next year launch that mirrors that of Sony’s PS3, but all will be divulged in May before E3. Luckily Nintendo promises to keep information flowing on the Revolution leading up to the launch — whenever that might be.

Engadget Article

CNN Article

A z T e X, on Dec 16 2005, 11:12 AM, said:

For second there i thought it said Chuck Norris

Pillsy, on Dec 17 2005, 02:54 PM, said:

LOL! same here I had to read it twice to see the correct name.
Anyways... thanks for the info guys!

Gah, I want to see more details. I want to see people playing Metroid with the Revvie.
I also wonder how will you turn around in the game. I assume the nunchuck thing is for strafing, and the controller for aiming. But how do you turn?

Mario Kart: Revolution is now confirmed. See here:

http://www.revo-euro...ws.php?nid=8649

Excellent news Glenn, I'll throw it on the list.

It would appear MarioKart DS has been a great hit, mostly due to its fantastic online play. I guess it will happen all over again now from our homes.

I'm a naughty double poster, but I thought this needed its own post. Mostly because its must sexier than the last.

Some brand new and random comments from developers.

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Those, plus about twice as many more, can be found over at:
http://www.revolutio...ticles/read/229

That site is also an excellent news source.

Return_of_Glenn, on Dec 19 2005, 04:34 PM, said:

Cool, i loved double dash for the 'Cube so i can wait for that.

Cheers for the Info too EatChildren, Im sure you can be forgiven for a double post!

I never played any Mario Kart. :( Should I?

A new game in the Kid Icarus series and an RPG made from Camelot the makers of Golden Sun 1-2?

I think they will be nice.

Great news guys! And i love them quotes Eatchildren ! :D

VN1X, on Dec 15 2005, 10:19 AM, said:

Trust me, you won;t be seeing UT07 on the rev. Ever.

ripcurl682, on Dec 21 2005, 07:34 AM, said:

...nor GTA. "We dont want GTA on our console, the Gamecube is a games onlymachine..."
Like da fkn hell? Anyways, I still like the Revolution now. I will be getting one. EatChildren has the arduous task of collecting the info. We just drool over it

I'd be really interested in playing a flight simulator with that. *drools a little bit*

btw, 1000th post

joshphillips, on Dec 14 2005, 09:30 AM, said:

That game is amazing, me and my friend still beat that game occasionally. I might download Battletoads first though or maybe battletoads meet double dragon, oh the possibilities

bosshogg, on Dec 20 2005, 08:00 PM, said:

Battletoads Battlemaniacs is pretty damn fun dude.

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I'm still a bit iffy about the anti-GTA quotes from Nintendo. Personally I think if Rockstars went and said "We want to bring it over" Nintendo would have absolutely no problem with it. No content would be cut or anything like that. It won't happen though, ever.

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It would be nice, but I don't think it will come over either. Really, it only will if Epic fall in complete love with the console in an unatural way.

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Yes. I'm not huge on Mario Kart to be honest. I felt Diddy Kong's Racing was far better. However, Mario Kart has a massive following and is still fun. It is sure to sell very well.

I'm kinda glad GTA didn't come over to Nintendo. As stated before, the Cube is a games only console. Nor should Unreal be on Nintendo. I mean come on, that's a PC game. I mean seriously! If Nintendo starts mass porting PC games to its platform, it will lose its die hard fanbase in a jiffy. Us Nintendo Freaks want freaky Nintendo games. That's why Nintendo still exists, and that's why Microsoft and Sony keep scratching their heads at why a console without Halo or GTA has managed to survive the flood of "mainstream gamers" for the past 5 years. Nintendo should and will keep its retro-ish approach to gaming at first place. That's what keeps them running. That's what makes the current generation of gamers call Nintendo "kiddie".

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If a console was to only have Nintendo games I'd be very tempted to ignore it and not buy it, at least not on launch. Nintendo cannotsurvive by supporting themselves, unless they pump out loads of cheap small games.

I love Metroid, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and Mario, but I do not want to be pushed away from 3rd party titles. No title would cause Nintendo fans to abandon their console.

If Epic wanted to port over a copy of UT2007 I see no reason why they should not. In fact, I see great reason to do so. Fact is the GameCube was without a really, really high quality multiplayer shooter (TimeSplitters 2 and 3 were great, but they were no Goldeneye or Perfect Dark from the N64). If the Rev's remote is as good at controller FPS as people are saying it is then I say the more the merrior.

Hell, with free online and a great ported shooter you would have a massive community to play with.

Nintendo's attempt to try new things and take the market to new places is what I love about them, but they cannot survive alone. For every great Nintendo title I loved on the GCN and N64 there was a 3rd Party title I liked nearly just as much (if not exactly).

I'd still like to play titles like Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Burnout, Unreal Tournmanet, Quake, Half Life, and countless others on my console. Those + Nintendo Games would make for a very, very powerful console.

Double post again, but bah!

Two New Revolution Titles Announced:

A new Japanese company called AQ (Artistic Quality) is publishing/developing two Revolution titles along-side a bunch of Xbox360, DS, PSP, and PS3 titles.

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Not much to go off but hey, its something.

Source: http://revolution.ig...7/677700p1.html

EatChildren, on Dec 21 2005, 12:50 AM, said:

Not much, but hey its still one more (hopefully good) game for the Rev

I made a mistake, its actually two Revolution titles. One is the action title and the other is the one based off a comic book.

EatChildren, on Dec 21 2005, 07:34 AM, said:

Don't get me wrong. I see nothing wrong with 3rd party games for Nintendo consoles. Eternal Darkness is one of my favourite Cube games. I just mean that I don't think games like GTA and others alike belong on a Nintendo console. Nintendo consoles have this special aura around them. That aura comes from the Nintendo games. Sega consoles had this too. The other consoles don't. That's why any Sega or Nintendo console will be better than anything else up until now. When you're playing a game that's made by the same company who designed the console's hardware, you can tell the difference. I'm not saying 3rd party games are bad games, but usually, when a game has been ported over 5 or more different platforms, its quality starts to... rot. GTA being a perfect example. Besides, GTA's too kiddie for Nintendo.

I half agree I guess. Personally, I hate GTA3 and onwards. GTA and GTA2 were actually decent and well made. They were gritty, but still comical. Each did new things and opened up new doors. Really, the first GTA was revolutionary, no other game was like it. GTA2 added so much more depth with the ability to choose which gang you wanted to be with.

Then along came GTA3. I sware, every GTA game from GTA3 has been made just to make money. GTA3 was 3D. Big woop. Gun combat sucked, you removed the choice system, and the game tried to hard to be "hardcore". Rockstar lost its flame and passion for the game. If GTA3 had the features of GTA:SA then maybe I'd think differently.

I don't care if GTA is never seen on a Nintendo platform, mostly because I would not buy it.

A game like UT might be worth it though, if its good. Much like GTA I dont think UT2003 or 2004 were as good as the original. If 2007 is as good (if not better) then I'd like it ported. Sure, I'd probably get it for PC, but it would be nice to know a solid online shooter is avaliable.

Oh to hell with it. I'll just assume Free Radical are making an exclusive shooter and that it will be awesome.

Zhiwu, on Dec 21 2005, 08:46 PM, said:

Gah, I should've thought of that sentence earlier

Zhiwu, on Dec 21 2005, 10:46 AM, said:

The problem with this is, do you want to buy a console that's revolves solely around milking three or four franchises.

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and looking at reviews and sales numbers for all three games, I'd have to say you're dead wrong

I just got this off Gamesradar, not sure if it's been posted.

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That sounds pretty cool, but it means I'm going to have to wait longer for what might be the best Zelda yet.

Once again, Nintendo finds a way to piss me off.

**** the Revolution, we don't need it to make a GAMECUBE game. The revolution shouldn't affect this game's release in any way.

lol... 'radical device'...

videogangs, on Dec 23 2005, 03:06 AM, said:

Undoubtedly

I guess that Twilight Princess works with the GCN and Rev in the same way as Oracle of Ages and Seasons worked with GBC and GBA: You get small bonuses for playing on the newer systems put in by devs, such as an extra shop (OOA/OOS). I wonder what new thing Nintendo will implement with the GCN version for Revolution... lets wait and see!

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To my knowlege, Twilight Princess was expected in March. At least sometime near there.

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What if...

since Zelda is supposed to be released early next year... and it was pushed back and they wouldn't want to alienate preordered and paid customers of the Zelda game... maybe this means an earlier release of the Revolution!

That alone has me excited!

Oh, and controlling link with that revolution controller is almost enough to make whip cream in my pants

Caste, on Dec 22 2005, 07:59 PM, said:

Sales don't exactly make something good. Look at the pop music industry.

...look at MS Windows.

Just because a lot of people buy into something, doesn't necessarily make it good.

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I'm completely aware of how well GTA3+ has reviewed and sold, but I stand by what.

The gun combat sucked, period. Vice City and GTA3 are almost exactly the same with the only differences being a new city, weapons, cars, and time. Really, it was the exact same game in terms of features. San Andreas finally decided to try new things, but a vast majority of its "features" are gimmicky rubbish thats either unenjoyable or tacked on with a load of bugs. Take the "BMX Challange" trash. People will rant on and on about how you can ride a BMX in it and do tricks. You can ride a bike up ramps and bunny hop. Woo hoo.

I can see some of the appeal of GTA but I still think that the latest versions are nothing short of "3D Versions" of the first one. People can complain about Mario, Zelda, or Metroid being reused too often but at least they try to do something new each time other than reuse the same formula.

People can love and worship GTA for all I care, but I think the game could be much better. I have the same opinion about Halo. I respect the game, and understand what it was trying to do, but when it was released it was hailed as the "Best Shooter Ever". My arse it is. It might be fun but it is far from the "Best Shooter Ever", now and then.

However, I do not really wan't to raise a debate about GTA or Halo and how good they are. People like different games.

Anyway, I saw that Zelda news comming a mile away. It seemed pretty damn obvious that Nintendo would try and throw in some feature. Think about it; Twilight Princess is likely to be the last major GCN game release, and GCN is on its final legs. Heck, its pretty much dropped to its knees. The Revolution will likely be released not that far out of the Zelda release. Nintendo do not want to bring Zelda exclusively over to the Rev. So, the best move is to throw in a "Revolution Exclusive" feature to encourage people to pick it up plus a Revolution. It's not a bad move in my opinion.

FFomega136, on Dec 22 2005, 07:20 PM, said:

It's still a rumor..

This is an idea I had for a Revolution game. Be warned, its quite a long read. Anyway, I posted this around on a couple of other boards so I've decided to put it here as well.
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I love horror games, but I hate corny repetitive horror. The first RE was original and great, but every sequel (apart from RE4) was just the same thing. RE4 was great as it showed off a different style of horror (the panic "I’m outnumbered" style) while keeping the RE feel. I loved System Shock 2 for its spine chilling creeping horror, and the Alien Vs Predator titles really take the cake for that "I really don't want to go in there" emotion. The first time I played the AvP2 demo I dreaded knowing the only way out was a dark air vent. I love the Silent Hill series for their classic spooky horror, and even FEAR had a good few scares.

I was sitting around yesterday thinking of a movie to watch when I looked over to my collection and saw 28 Days Later. I had seen it before, loved it, but decided to watch it again. Afterwards I thought "This style would make an amazing horror title".

Imagine no opening film clip, no background story, no virus outbreak causing Zombies. You turn on the game and bam, your character wakes up in your bed. Your completely unsure of what is going on and what to do and the adventure begins there.

The game would play entirely in first person and for a good reason. This is to give the sense of "being there", as if it is you. The character would also feature no HUD what-so-ever, much like the King Kong title. This is added to give immersion.

The player would use the analogue attachment to control their character around. You know, the basic. Walk, run, strafe, whatever. The Rev's remote would act as your head and hand. You could use it to look around and steer your character. The key part is the ability to pick up any object (thanks to physics) and manipulate them like you would in real life. Throw them across a room, stack them, the usual kind of thing.

Anyway, you'd wake up and much like the movie there would not be a soul in sight, so you walk around and look for clues as to where everyone has gone. Things like news paper clippings, magazine articles, they would all give you clues as to where everyone is gone.

The controller would feature a "Talk" button that when normally pressed basically causes your character to yell out "Hello?" or other such things. As the story progresses you will find other "survivors". Perhaps a survivor has boarded themselves up in an old home. If you don't try and communicate before going in he or she might take you for the "evil" and try and kill you. Then again, if it is home to "zombies" (would rather it not be zombies) yelling outside might get their attention. Either way, they talk button would also be used to communicate with any people that join up with you. Simply aim in their direction and hit it and a character would communicate with you. Much like King Kong each character would have a particular "ability" or "style". Yell out to the solider and he will inform you about the danger of the area, or yell out to the architect to get an idea of the surrounds and where you might be able to go.

The game play would be entirely freeform. There would be no set path and it would be a constant existing world. The follows you gain would be easily gotten or found, and many you may never find (or may find dead). Essentially, exploring would be extremely important. By gaining followers and using their abilities to explore, as well as exploring yourself, the story would be uncovered in a completely non-linear fashion. It would be literally like placing you in that situation and saying "here is the world, now experience it".

The horror aspect would be very survival like, but not in intense combat. The weapons would be minimal and the game would be more about avoiding the enemies and exploring instead of shooting and stabbing (like traditional games). You are, after all, just a normal human being, not a soldier. The fear would be original in the sense that it places YOU in the game world and how YOU escape and protect yourself is up to YOUR actions.

Imagine you and your followers running from the enemy. You find a great place to run and hide in. As you run in, your the last one in, and one of your team mates yells out for you to hurry up and shut the door, and also block it. You run to block it and you can see the enemy quickly coming down the hall. You know they will be there any minute and if they DO get there you WILL be dead. In a normal game you would simply run to the door and press "A" to shut it, and then press "A + Forward" on an object to block it. This time you must use the controller to run to the door and physically shut it. Then, using the physics and "hand" control, you must literally move objects up against the door and build a defense how you would actually build it.

This kind of fear would be very original as it would be based of player actions. Things would not be so linear. Defense against a door would not be a simple task of pushing a pre determined object up against it; it would be the player’s choice as to how they do it.

This style would apply to all features of the linear world. When escaping an enemy how will you do it? Will you attempt to smash the boards off a building and go inside? Will you split up with your party and try and divert them? Will you try and build a wall to defend yourself, or throw objects at them to stop them? The open world would allow you to escape to anywhere you wanted, and use your skills as well as your team mates to find new paths and alternative options.

The fear is created through player limits. The player will have to literally think and physically be active in order to survive, and I think that would make it terrifying. If you’re not fast enough, or too fast and panic, you will falter and the game will respond accordingly.

The non linear world and non linear finding of followers would be great too. Perhaps a follower gets tired when running and starts lagging behind. When they are screaming at you and the others to wait up for him/her as the enemies are coming, what do you do? Do you take the advice of one of your teammate and keep running, or do you go back and try to help? If you go back and try to help, how are you going to do that? You can't just stand around doing nothing as time is essential and your actions are important. If you leave the character behind he or she will probably die. How will this affect the game from this point on, and how will others react to you knowing you did this?

Anyway, that’s how it popped in to my mind. It probably won’t happen, but personally I think something along the lines of that would be very exciting and very, very scary. A man can dream.

EatChildren, on Dec 24 2005, 01:57 AM, said:

thats a really cool idea, i expecially like the part about physically moving objects around with the controller and making baricades

I think you have a great idea there EatChildren (but your name is even more disturbing). Anyway, that would be a great twist on a predictable genre. Having a completely open world where you can choose where to go to try and survive would be awesome. There could still be clues on places to go, like radio broadcasts, but they should always be happening, whether you are there or not. So an informative radio message could be missed if a player is not at the right place at the right time, just like in real life. Luck would kind of play into the game, and it wouldn't just feel like the world is molded around you. Events aren't trigged just because you walked into a room, they would have happened anyway, you just happened to be there or not. So if a player gets lucky and gets more clues early on then his buddy who also owns the game, then he could beat it earlier. It would be cool if the other "non-zombie" players were actually trying to survive too. Even if you never run into some of them, they are still trying to get to safety. They aren't just waiting for you to show up...

Maybe someday we'll have a game like this, who knows...it seems like quite a doable game.

I've also been thinking about horror games on the Revolution though. I know that the whole Visor (Nintendo ON) type thing is most likely fake, but just run with the idea for a second. Imagine if technology like that was feasible in a console right now, with a visor that completely covered your vision, even to the sides of your eyes. Imagine if it also had ear phones and a mic. Now you put this headset on and pop in the newest Resident Evil game. All you can see and all you can hear is the game. You can't see the walls in your house around you, because the screen covers every portion of your eyesite. Now your walking down this hall in the game and one of those freakin zombie dogs jumps through a window. My god that would be so scary. I can't wait until I get something like that...

Well It looks like Im gonna be getting a PS3 and a Revolution to last me. PC gaming is too expensive. So as soon as PS3 comes out. Im raareelly gonna buy and pc games or hardware.

ps3>360>ps2>xbox>the first Nintendo> revolution.
Nintendo's tactic of not unveiling any material is working out great. I also highly doubt the graphics will be better than the ps3 or even 360. Just from the size, it wouldn’t have room for a cooling device.
Also nothing from nintendo will beat mgs4.

Mr.Armagedon1, on Dec 24 2005, 07:56 AM, said:

I think i just threw up a little in my mouth...

I wish i had the power to see into the future like you.

Mr.Armagedon1, on Dec 24 2005, 07:56 AM, said:

Well, we already accept the fact that the graphics won't be the best. And competing with powerful hardware requires bigger power supply (*cough*Microsoft*cough*) and this leads into huge heat generation thus more powerful setup needs more powerful cooling methods.

Revolution is small and sleek. And how can you know that nothing from Nintendo can't beat MGS4? You haven't even played it!

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The graphics won't be as good? Really? This is news to me. I'm sure Nintendo never said anything about the graphics being put second this time around. Boo! Hiss! Down with Nintendo!

I love your logic. I love how the Revolution is at the bottom of the list before you (or any of us for that matter) have seen any game play movies or games in motion.

Oh, and one last note, Hideo Kojima is making an exclusive franchise for the Revolution. But of course it won't be as good as MGS. How could it be? After all, it is on a Nintendo console.

I really do think two of the greatest features of the Revolution will be what'll cause its extreme popularity in the future:
1) Controller. Everything the press has about it so far is just praises.
2) Price. It will be at least $100 cheaper than the two other consoles. Probably more than $200 cheaper.

Mr.Armagedon1, on Dec 24 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

Look at Resident Evil 4. Despite the GameCube's modest size and lack of earsplitting noise, it was one of the best looking games of 2005.

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Ah, so you've played MGS4? How is it?

Animal Crossing on revolution, whooooo.

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My point exactly. If it can run a game better looking than RE4 I really, really do not care about the graphics in the slightest. Games like Rogue Squadron 3 and Star Fox Adventures are also very, very pretty. Hell, Star Fox Aventures even did that trick to make animals look like they have fur.

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Its good. Spoiler: Snake dies.

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A part of me just wants to have my town infested with bugs so I can try and infest other villages with them. Spend my entire AC Online time ruining towns.

w-ninja, on Dec 26 2005, 07:09 PM, said:

Any Zelda game kills any MGS game and I love MGS, these are just facts.

SH!T SH!T SH!Ti i lost track of this topic. *Reading back 3 pages*.

I dont remember if this was mentioned, but:

Pikmin 3 has been pretty much confirmed.

Pikmin, one of the best overlooked games ever.
I wonder if they can make the Harvest Moon series more interesting on Revolution, if that's possible. I've always had a liking to that series for an odd reason.

Btw EatChildren, i loved that concept of yours! Would be awesome to have something like that in the future.

Return_of_Glenn, on Dec 24 2005, 05:06 AM, said:

Nope, I think it's official.

New Developer Comments.

Its that time of year in Japan where the big name developers talk about how well they think they did over the last year or two, and what they are looking forward to next year. Here are some who mentioned the Revolution. Key information is in bold.

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Good news, I would say, especially with even more confirmation that Kojima will be making a Revolution Exclusive title.

Overall the response seemed to be more positive towards Xbox360 and PS3, but many of the developers develop titles the states never get, or titles that don't sell all that well here.

w-ninja, on Dec 26 2005, 08:09 PM, said:

It's great. MGS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Finland
Snake doesn't die. Your mission in the game is to destroy Finland since all the patriots are from Finland and are greedy.

Metal Gear Finland

I don't get it, but it is called Metal Gear Finland....

I built a time machine and I do have a copy of mgs4. And the revolution does actually have good graphics take a look here

Dude...Shut up...You got pwned, get over it.

I can't wait for the Revolution. Mainly because I went and played a 360 and it felt like a reg xbox but with better looking graphics. Woop-de-do..Can't wait.

LEAN3, on Dec 29 2005, 12:54 AM, said:

maybe they are all the offspring of Snake?

Mr.Armagedon1, on Dec 29 2005, 12:58 AM, said:

and hey, stop that nasty flaming of the revolution

WorfoSAUR, on Dec 28 2005, 08:25 PM, said:

How does what you think of the 360 make you want to play the revolution when you haven’t even seen one game and even a video demonstration from it. The only thing that is actually official so far with the revolution is the controller.

videogangs, on Dec 27 2005, 09:41 PM, said:

Delayed again until November? I highly doubt Nintendo will screw GC owners to put in Rev controls, when they already have a seperate Rev Zelda planned. I just don't see any point, it would be suffering another very long delay just to add something that will already be in Zelda Revolution. Not to mention how Nintendo stated that TP will be the last conventional Zelda and Zelda Rev (not TP) will use an entirely different control method. I'll wait till I hear this one from more than one source. (NGC mag isn't official BTW)

Does Nintendo have an official list of the downloadable games for Revolution?

Return_of_Glenn, on Dec 30 2005, 03:52 AM, said:

They are not saying that it will be a Revolution title. It will still be, primarily, a GCN title. Just like it was always planned to be. However, when you put the GCN disk in your Revolution (as it is backwards compatable) the Revolution will allow you to unlock certain exclusive features that require the new controller. Think like the Wind Waker link-up with the GBA. It was not something you needed to do, but if you did it you got to play with some mini features.

I think something like this will happen. Nintendo love "exclusive" stuff like that. It won't hurt sales for the title, and may infact slightly improve Revolution sales.

Zelda is huge, as you know. I know a number of Zelda fans who would buy a Revolution for exclusive features on a game that was released months before it.

Basically, they are not saying that Zelda will be delayed, but instead just given extra features based on the Revolutions hardware.

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Nope, not yet. Fingers crossed we learn soon.

The reason I think Zelda is coming out around the same time as the REV is Nintendo wants to show off it's backward compatibility with the cube games. The gamecube is a good system, but it's dwindling as we speak and Nintendo isn't trying to make a comeback for the cube with Zelda so they are just going to help push the Revolution out the door with it. Alot of people buy the Nintendo systems for the Zelda franchise so if the Twilight Princess comes out when the Revolution shows up and the hardware is only $149 (just a guess from reading info on gpost) and the gamecube is $100 people will want to spend the extra $49 for the next gen experience and have there Zelda too.

Edit- I guess I kinda added to your point Eatchildren

Mr.Armagedon1, on Dec 29 2005, 07:40 AM, said:

Exactly. This disgusts me; I consider this to be great disrespect to the gamer society. But the Revolution has some awesome ideas in it, so I'm definitely getting it.

I think if you call yourself a gamer and have a lack of faith in Nintendo you're not really a gamer at all.

joshphillips, on Dec 29 2005, 09:40 AM, said:

What type of pathetic person says this? I call total BS, Nintendo hasn't put out anything decent for a while.

Dark Knight, on Dec 29 2005, 11:42 AM, said:

Don't make me make a list for you.

EatChildren said:

I thought NGC stated it would be delayed until November to add it in? If it wasn't delayed I think the controls would be a great idea, but if it's delayed I see no point. It just seems illogical to delay a game of this sort for several months to add in a control method that will be in the next Zelda. And at the same time, I know lots of GC owners that will not like waiting another half year for features that they won't even be able to use.

Dark Knight, on Dec 29 2005, 07:42 PM, said:

I guess you must have missed their last console, the GameCube.

I agree with W....Nintendo Gamecube was an amazing system... you know it takes u back to the better years of gaming.... speaking of the better years.... Darwinia totally does this for me... lol

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While I agree that its stupid to feel that if you don't like an X360 you'll magically like a Revolution, this comment right here is a load of horse and you know it.

If you honestly think that every GCN and DS game blows then your taste is either very, very specific and picky, or your an idiot.

I could write a list of Nintendo developed and produced GCN and DS titles that are/were fantastic.

Dark Knight, on Dec 30 2005, 01:42 AM, said:

a) The Gamecube is decent so I have no idea in hell what youre on about, and b) tell Microsoft to put out a decent amount of consoles at a launch next time....

I know I sure would have played my Gamecube more, that is if my freakin controller didn't cheese out. The damn joystick is all wobbly! My PS2 controller doesn't do that and it's been used a hell of alot more...

w-ninja, on Dec 29 2005, 05:03 PM, said:

Everything on the GCN was pretty 'ok' imo. Only games that I thought were very good were SSBM and Metroid Prime. Zelda/Sunshine/Endless amount of Mario party/sports/crap were pretty lame(sequels and unoriginal). Lack of third party support sucked as well.

Sm00th_Crim1nal, on Dec 30 2005, 04:17 AM, said:

I liked that Zelda, wasn't up to par in my opinion, but still pretty good. Hope they never cell shade a Legend of Zelda game again though

dont be dissin nintendo

at the root of all popular games today comes influence from nintendo

Yeah and they made three of the top 5 highest rated games ever made, one of them being a GCN title.

Why the hell are there anti-Nintendo posts? This is a topic to talk about Nintendo's upcoming console. Not to bash anything about Nintendo.

Sm00th_Crim1nal, on Dec 29 2005, 10:17 PM, said:

So true.

The Gamecube completely flopped when it came to sales. There was nothing really driving it. Poor 3rd party support and only a handful of home and true 1st party Nintendo games worth playing. Nintendo has always been bad at 3rd party support and it looks like it just got a whole lot worse with the Revolution. 3rd party developers will leave Revolution behind because they can't distribute their games across all three next gen systems. The Revolution is vastly underpowered compared to the Xbox360 and PS3, it wont be able to play the games in a more generic fashion (note to flamers, 'generic' here does not mean crummy games by EA that are all the same, I mean being able to be ported over to all systems with ease).

That leaves Revolution with mainly just a few big hitters produced by the Big N themselves. I just hope the Revolution doesn't go the same way as the Gamecube.

I'm not a Nintendo hater. I don't want an Xbox360 or a PS3 (my Nintendo DS is my pride and joy). I've never been interested in the Gamecube or N64 but the Revolution has me interested with it's controller. Lets hope Nintendo knows what it's doing with the Revolution because they bombed with their consoles ever since the SNES.

Opium, on Dec 30 2005, 11:06 PM, said:

In my eyes its not. While I admit that the GCN did not have the support it needed, to state that he only enjoyed two titles is HIS opinion. I could list a lot of titles for the GCN that I have enjoyed immensely, and I know a lot of people that would agree with me. It's the same opinion that drives people to raise Halo up as the god-of-all-shooters, something I completely disagree with.

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In the states it did not sell as well as expected, but it ripped the scene up in Japan. Regardless of "poor sales", Nintendo made a lovely profit.

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Have you read any of the comments from developers? Nearly all the big name developers have expressed great interest in the console and have praised Nintendo for innovation. A vast majority of them have also pledged support for developing titles. I'm not talking just about original titles, but porting other platform titles across to take advantage of the controller.

You can't claim any knowledge of how difficult it is to port software over to the Revolution. You do not know the specs, how the devkits work, or the full details of the console and what 3rd parties know. Neither do I, but claiming that porting titles will be hard is nothing short of an assumption.

The Revolution being "vastly underpowered" is a rumor, and not a fact. Keep that in mind. All we have to go off is a handful of developer comments and what Nintendo have said. While I really don't care about the graphics department, and believe it wont be as powerful as the other two, studios like Epic have stated that the Unreal 3 engine would be well suited to the Revolution. If it can run that engine then, in my opinion, it is far from "underpowered".

That leaves Revolution with mainly just a few big hitters produced by the Big N themselves. I just hope the Revolution doesn't go the same way as the Gamecube.

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Again, your opinion. The N64 has some absolutely fantastic titles, and while they were not often made by Nintendo they were however produced and exclusive to the console. I'll take Perfect Dark and Goldeneye's multiplayer over a truckload of FPS multiplayers from the last 8 years. Not to mention titles like Ocarina and Goldeneye have been critically acclaimed as some of the best titles ever made.

Most of what you’re saying is entirely your opinion, as I've stated, and a lot of what I'm saying is mine. I have a feeling if you think that the SNES was the last decent Nintendo console then you’re deep down hoping for old-school game play. Unfortunately you’re going to be horribly disappointed as Nintendo are going in the complete opposite direction. Then again, you love your DS, so it's good to see you’re interested in the Revolution.

Opium, on Dec 30 2005, 02:06 PM, said:

To date, the GameCube has sold 18 million copies, while the Xbox has sold 22 million. Not a major difference. The Xbox didn't fare well in Japan, either.

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Can you link me to the Revolution's specs, and possibly a few videos of games running on it? Oh, wait, you can't. Try not to present speculation as fact. Several prominent third party developers have expressed interest towards the Revolution.

EatChildren, on Dec 30 2005, 02:26 PM, said:

Yes. Unlike the competition, Nintendo actually profits from selling units. Of course, they also have Gameboy and DS...

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There have been rumors that it's underpowered, and there have also been rumors that it's on par with the other consoles.

w-ninja, on Dec 30 2005, 01:28 PM, said:

The GC may even edge ahead (or in line) with the Xbox when Zelda: TP comes out. I know lots of people that will be buying GC's specifically to play the game. I also know lots of people that never bought the GC because it didn't have a convential (graphics) Zelda game on it.

GameCube should have sold at least 20 million by now... I heard that 18 million figure over an year and a half ago...

Anyway, Revolution will definitely be underpowered. Several developers have said it, and the only thing the don't know about is the GPU.

And 3rd parties may just be expressing interest, but may never really do anything. They just don't want to appear bashing the console and saying the next gen is all about power (*cough cough* Mark Rein *cough cough*). Although, some developers such as Kojima Productions and Ubisoft (woohoo, FPS), are working on titles, so =]

IcyStorm, on Dec 30 2005, 11:52 AM, said:

There's a HUGE difference between being underpowered and not being as powerful as the competition.

Underpowered makes me think of chugging framerates.

Not as powerful makes me think of developers being asshats. After playing Resident Evil 4 on my GameCube... it being a less powerful system than the Xbox didn't seem to make much of a difference.



Woah... my post count = my post # in this thread :D

Some new "news".

Revolution's second 'secret' confirmed again.
Quoted from "Nintendo Europe", the official Nintendo guys in Europe (derr).

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More developer comments.

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Source: Revolution Report
http://www.revolutio...ticles/read/244
http://www.revolutio...ticles/read/243

people are actually saying that it might be released in may, along with its full unveilment at e3. the rev already went gold on the 23rd of december.

*if you want me to back this up, i'm not going to, cause i don't feel like it. but you can easily find this info if you google it.

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You are correct, but I personally doubt it. E3 is supposed to be the big Nintendo show for the Rev, so I think it will (read: should) launch a couple of months after.

UbiSoft's release date comments are a little bit concerning, but they are just speculation. It would be wise for Nintendo to have a world-wide release before 2007.

On a rather unrelated note, my copy of Rogue Squadron 3: Rebel Strike arrived today. I got it good and cheap off Ebay. The game is a visual orgasm, and often beats RE4 to the punch. IMO, over all, it is probably the best looking (graphical) game on the GCN.

Here are a couple of in game screenies:



To have games looking better than that on the Revolution makes me a happy man.

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Thats because both of them flopped. The PS2, regardless of quality, was the only succesful console.


In other news, I bought a gamecube the other day :(

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*Raises hand*

I'm boycotting cell shading.

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Welcome to the club. Turn that frown upside down!

What games have you got? Don't let anybody tell you there are "no good games" for the system, let you decide that for yourself.

I'll see what you have and then give you some input on other titles to look out for.

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Then be happy for:

EatChildren, on Jan 3 2006, 01:34 AM, said:

Well it came with five games (ebay) that I really dont want, so I'm going to trade up for RE4, SSBM, Mario sunshine, and maybe I'll make an exception for wind waker, since I've already bought the thing. I already have Metroid Prime.

Sigh, I can't shake this unclean feeling...

well i got the X360 fr Xmass. & i wouldnt mind this to, yet im not sure. Nintendo only got my intrest up twice. SuperNintendo & N64. i think they should leave the HIU to sony or now MS X360, and stay to what there best at. Handheld's (eventho PSP is the Best )
i just wounder if SEGA will make a Comeback or just now stick to what there best at, Arcade's.. theres only 1 game everyone would realy buy the NR for, and that is as we all no ZELDA!! (i wish they madeit for all Console's)

DaGooN, on Jan 3 2006, 03:25 AM, said:

supposedly sega is rereleaseing the dreamcast, rumor though

EatChildren, on Jan 2 2006, 11:23 PM, said:

Yeah, that's the game that beats out every Xbox game graphically on a technical scale. Insane number of polygons on the screen at once. 20 million-25 million I think.

There was a HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE thread at the G4 forums a long time ago when a guy named ShadowFox I think, explained why the GameCube = Xbox technically. It was an awesome read.

Yep, E3. Pre-E3 press conference at the Kodak Theatre. w00t something's big in store for this.

Having played the game more than is natural now, I'd like to say that the Endor Speedbike Battle (bottom screenshot) when in motion is the best graphical experiance out of any game I have seen and played on the GameCube, Xbox, and PS2. It disturbs me they were able to pull it off so very, very well.

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It's going to be long five months.

EatChildren, on Jan 4 2006, 12:32 AM, said:

I have to say, that bottom screenshot looks incredibly realistic. The trees look almost photo realistic IMO, and the lighting looks amazing.

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Every single one of those trees is bump-mapped. Every single laser shot gives off dynamic real-time light as it travels, and then gives off another when it hits something (giving off a realistic sci-fi spark effect). A "light through branches" effect is moving throughout the whole level, effecting all the bump-maps while its at it. Even when I died, giving me the only glimpse upwards possible, the trees were there and there was a sun "glow" through the leaves. Your character’s rag cloak thing blows in the breeze, and a brilliant blur effect is put into action when you hit boost.

To top it off the level runs crisp and smooth, and when in first person (like the screenshot) you can hear a realistic deep "whoosh" sound every time you pass something.

If anybody ever ratted on the GCN's visual power this level single handedly proves them wrong. I honestly did not think the console had the power to do what is shown.

I've never owned a Nintendo console, I had a game boy classic + advanced, but never a games console. The Rev has a really different approach to gaming and I for 1 am very interested, the only thing that may stop me getting one is money...

atm I have a 360 and will be getting a PS3, the Rev is likely to launch last (in the UK anyway) so I may be all taped for cash.. :(

http://news.teamxbox...-Less-than-300/ <--- Although there may be HOPE!

EatChildren, on Jan 4 2006, 12:43 AM, said:

Wow sounds awesome. That screenshot has made up my mind for me, so ill be getting that game as soon as I can. I mean, if the GCN can pump out visuals like that then its amazing to think how bloody cool games on the next gen consoles will look three to four years down the line....my mind boggles at the thought...

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The game itself is a little dodgy. Compared to the previous title in the series (Rogue Leader) the levels are shorter and easier, which is very disappointing. They also added in "on foot" missions which...well...suck. They feel clunky and messy, and just do not play well. The other missions (while short, as mentioned) are very, very fun. The game plays more like a personal challenge, as you’re meant to replay levels and try and earn medals to unlock the bonus levels.

The multiplayer is where it is at though. Four or five (I don't remember exactly) different types of battles, allowing you to add in generic AI opponents to make the battles more exciting. Only supports two human players, but its still fun.

The best part, by far, is they included the ENTIRE Rogue Leader game in co-op only form. It has extra effects added by the engine, looks and plays great.

Either way, if you look on Ebay you can pick it up cheap as chips.

Here are a couple of other shots I think are cool. All in game of course (I know for sure as I've played this bits. Some are a little altered in terms of the camera angle, but it’s the same level and engine).

This level takes place on Endor as well. Instead of scooting past tree's in a speeder, your driving an AT-ST. It looks just as good as the other, and has other AT-ST driving around the level, Storm Troopers and Ewoks running around fighting, and the occasional enemy speeder flies past. Trees burst into flames when you shoot them and fall to the ground when you stop them.


This level is set on Hoth and is mostly on-foot. Luckily it does not play as annoyingly as a lot of the other on-foot missions. You play as Luke. You grapple up onto the bottoms of AT-AT's and cut them with your saber, followed by grenadine their metal arse. What follows is Bantha riding and X-Wing fighting. Good times.

This game looks awesome

Yeah... I completely forgot about that game, even though I beat it 3 times over

It looks way better than anything I've ever played on a console, but people pass it up and forget about it because all people seem to say is how horrible the game is (even though it isn't that bad).

I mean, come on. It includes the entire 2nd game of the series in it in multiplayer so it has to be at LEAST as good as that one >_>

Sm00th_Crim1nal, on Dec 29 2005, 11:17 PM, said:

Your joking right? Yeah it only has the best game of 2005 exclusivly on it(well, not now)

http://forums.g4tv.c...&threadid=54975
^ 216 pages of heavy debate and discussion. A lot of bashing though.

http://forums.g4tv.c...threadid=280945
^ Part 2 (only 16 pages because G4 had a 300 post limit)

I read nearly all of it about an year ago.

IcyStorm, on Jan 3 2006, 11:55 PM, said:

I was going to say that you have too much free time, but it seems like an interesting thread. I'm only reading Real Shadow Fox's answers. It's funny how people try to evade the subject by complaining that the GameCube can't play DVDs and doesn't have 5.1 audio, and so on.

Yeah, but I started reading daily since that first thread was at page 20.

IcyStorm, on Jan 4 2006, 12:39 AM, said:

Well, that would explain it. Reading a thread as it develops is easier.

It is kind of lame that it doesn't have 5.1, but thats not going to stop me from buying it.

HobGadling, on Jan 4 2006, 12:19 PM, said:

I was referring to the GameCube.

I'll most likely buy it after I buy the ps3 and when it becomes really cheap and its killer apps come out (zelda,mario,metroid, possible re6?)

IcyStorm, on Dec 30 2005, 03:26 AM, said:

Discussion my friend

EatChildren, in your honest opinion... Do you think Rogue Squadron 3 is a good buy for about 30 euros ?

It looks cool and i've always been a fan of the series but after reading several magazine's and webzines i did not felt much for RS3.

SO TELL MEH! Is it worth the buy ?

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How much does 30 euros convert into Aus dollars?

Ehm... To be honest i have no idea lol. But its half of the full price you pay for a NGC game. (wich is 60 euros)

Roughly 48.5 Aussie Dollars

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Yes, you're right. ---- http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

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$48.5 Aussie dollars is a little too much IMO. I got my off Ebay for $33, including about $5 or $6 postage. It arrived in absolute mint condition (it even had that "new case" smell).

It's worth the money if you really want it, but you seem unsure so I'd be against.

The single player is just faulted by how easy it is (apart from medal earning), how short a lot of levels are, and how badly the on-foot missions play (I'm talking about people controlling, not land vehicles). Some play better than others (like Hoth for example), but often the on-foot soldier missions go for far too long to enjoy.

There are, of course, some moments which do make it amazing. The two Endor levels are fun as hell and absolutely stunning to look at it, and in one level you even get to fire from the cockpit of an AT-AT. Space battles are usually fantastic as well.

If you have friends who would love to play with you then it makes the game far more worth it. Having Rogue Leader, the whole bloody game, included as a co-op option is awesome and gives lots of multiplayer time. The other multiplayer modes are fun, but if someone is not into RS then they probably won’t fully enjoy it.

It's hard to say really. The game is disappointing in the respect that too much of it is a let down on what the last two in the series have offered. But there are some areas that are fantastic.

I would not pay more than $35 Aus for mine, so it’s all about how badly you want it and how much you’re willing to pay. From the sounds of it you’re a bit iffy about it, and I too loved the others in the series, so I'd lay off the title. Check Ebay and find it cheap, it’s far more worth it then.

EatChildren, on Dec 27 2005, 07:53 AM, said:

Heres another spoiler. Its a stealth game.

"Various websites are reporting that Nintendo sent out a card to game journalists that contain both the phrases “In 2006 Nintendo launches a Revolution” and “Before changing the face of videogaming forever, Nintendo France wishes you Merry Holidays and a Happy New Year!”

Included with the card is a stand up display of a bizarre man who seems to be assuming the position you may do once you purchase a Revolution later this year. " - Neowin

The card images...

http://www.nwserver....news/revo/1.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/2.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/3.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/4.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/5.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/6.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/7.jpg
http://www.nwserver....news/revo/8.jpg

There is not a whole lot I can say that would make any sense of that. So I'm going to leave it at "no comment".

Lol at funny asian guy on card.

And what did you think of the games I want get that I listed a few pages ago EatChildren?

Some newsage:

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Source: http://www.revolutio...ticles/read/246

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Source: http://revolution.ig...8/678757p1.html

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I'll go over what you said again and have a good think about it. What are your prefered genres? Mulitplayer over Single Player? etc.

sane, on Jan 5 2006, 07:09 AM, said:

Bluegh, he really should of used a smaller aperature for those pics, way too much dof! :P

EatChildren, on Jan 4 2006, 05:54 PM, said:

Hmm thanks for the heads-up. But as you said, iam a little iffy about it. I'll put my money on Metroid Prime 2: Echoes and SplinterCell 3 (combined they're 60 euros).

I was exited for the rev becuase of the possibility of downloading classic games, but now games like Street Fighter 2 are coming to the Xbox Live Marketplace with online play, I'm not so sure...

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What is stopping you from having both?

I'm positive Xbox Live and all its features are amazing, and will only get better, but your not going to see any classic NES, SNES or N64 games on it. Sega is also very interested in allowing their old games for download too.

EDIT: As far as I'm concerned if the one game on Xbox Live is enough to change your mind then you never would have gotten the Rev in the first place. Both will likely have good online features, including things the other will not have.

EatChildren, on Jan 5 2006, 03:02 PM, said:

HEAR HEAR !

EatChildren, on Jan 5 2006, 02:02 PM, said:

That's becuase I didn't realise they were actually going to start turning out classic real games, I thought the arcade was just going to be minigames like Hexec. And I didn't say I changed my mind, I said I wasn't so sure. We'll see what else comes out. If Sonic 2 comes out on Arcade... Oh my... <3

I don't have a 360 and don't know much about the arcade setup on it, but my boss at work has one and knows about it. He said you have to actually buy a card which is around 12 bucks and it's got points to spend on Live well for 12 dollars you get around 1000 points. Some games on the arcade cost 400-600 points to purchase and play. That's like paying 6 dollars for a 20 year old game that you can probably pick up at a pawn shop with the console for 20 bucks. Sounds like Microsoft is ripping you a new one.

Rumour: Online PC Developers interested in the Revolution?
Source: Electronic Gamer Monthly

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World of Warcarft? Guild Wars? Everquest? Only time will tell.

EatChildren, on Jan 5 2006, 05:16 PM, said:

a MMORPG on the Revolution would be awesome. Especially if it took advantage of the controller. (That plus no monthly fee. )

EatChildren, on Jan 5 2006, 10:16 AM, said:

Man that would be sweet. A wireless Kb and mouse would be a definite however.

EatChildren, on Jan 5 2006, 07:46 PM, said:

That controller doesn't look like it would be great for mmorpgs mainly cause theres a lack of buttons.

Being a PC fanboy, I'm generally against consoles. The X360 and PS3 have failed to impress me.

However, I will be buying a Revolution. Some proper innvation rather than shiny graphics at last. Count me in.

joshphillips, on Jan 5 2006, 03:51 PM, said:

Well here's the kicker - you don't have to buy them! Duh. Every game has a free trial download, and you don't have to buy special cards. You can just pay via your debit card if you want a game. £3 for online co-op Smash TV is a very, very small price to pay imo.

Simple, on Jan 5 2006, 05:23 PM, said:

It would be a joke if we saw a 'normal' MMORPG on the Revolution since it wouldn't make sense.

We already have a platform for that wich is the PC. So i'd expect a new sort of MMORPG on the Rev that really takes advantage of the controller.

ripcurl682, on Jan 5 2006, 10:27 AM, said:

A free trial isn't the full version so you still have to pay for it. I guess what I really mean is that I'd rather have the actual copy of the game for the same or cheaper as having to download it. It's just my preference. No harm ment.

http://www.revo-euro...ws.php?nid=8696

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I knew it..

*Puts on flame suit*


I saw this on the net the other day:

What the hell is that power glove? Isn't that one of Nintendo's other accesories?

AnthraX, on Jan 6 2006, 07:14 PM, said:

Rofl! Probably made by some Xbox fanboy lol.

Well... the Rev controller is kind of being copied already. (3rd party manufacturer).

If you haven't heard already:

http://www.gamespot....ws/6142045.html
http://joystiq.com/2...ps2-controller/

IcyStorm, on Jan 6 2006, 07:24 PM, said:

That third-party controller is:
A) Ugly
B) Golden (aka. Ugly)
C) Crap
D) Disgusting
E) Rip-off!

...and all of the above!

Yeah... I dunno about that there. How could that not be a complete rip-off

I'm not too worried about Nintendo's success. All I ever heard on message boards (mostly this one) was how much the DS was going to suck and fail and get blown away by the PSP. Now it's roughly 13 million units worldwide in just over a year.

http://news.moneycen...0105&ID=5393359


Nowadays I tend to not take anything people say on boards to heart about games. So many people are full of it I just don't even see why I should bother picking through all the crap to find out something noteworthy.

Monki, on Jan 6 2006, 10:06 PM, said:

Umm but the PSP is clearly much better than the DS. I only know one person with a DS while I know a lot more that have PSP. Even some DS fans clearly admit that PSP is much better.

HELLFIRE, on Jan 6 2006, 07:19 PM, said:

Hey, HELLFIRE, but remember:

1. This is a Revolution topic.
2. No one said the DS was better than the PSP in the last bunch of posts.
3. No one bashed the PSP in any way in the last load of posts.
4. That's just your opinion.
5. BTW, regardless of what you and others think, the DS is still outselling the PSP.

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Hurray for your opinion!

Your right, the PSP is a much better multimedia device. Did anybody say it was not? Nope.

Much like what IcyStorm said, you may not like it and think that nobody else does, but the sale figures seem to prove you wrong.

this is a revo discussion thread.....

wtf is with that controller!

reports say that it's very innacurate. If this was an apple product lawsuit time!

ehhe

http://www.nintendoj....php?1136570397

Man I want to see some topless elfin chicks.

joshphillips, on Jan 7 2006, 09:51 AM, said:

You twisted freak.





xD

joshphillips, on Jan 8 2006, 02:51 AM, said:

Or some hardcore naked Tingle action.

I like how Nintendo focuses on "mature content" and not "adult content", because the two are quite different.

Analysts Predict Revolution Success.

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Source: IGN Revolution Forums.
http://insidegamer.n...ent.php?id=9084
http://www.gamefront.de/

Sounds good!
I really hope Nintendo will sell good with the Rev. They deserve it.

EatChildren, on Jan 7 2006, 11:46 AM, said:

Sweet. That what Nintendo gets for having a cheaper priced console than everyone else. What were they thinking?

EatChildren, on Jan 8 2006, 01:46 AM, said:

Wick. I have great faith that Nintendo will do well in the next generation console war. There playing it the smartest ive ever seen them imo.

I think the reason the Gamecube didn't do as well as we had hoped was because Nintendo was trying to be much more mainstream than they usually are. It was the first console for them that didn't really do anything new besides linking up to the GBA. Now they are back in the right state of mind and we will soon see the awesome power of the Nintendo Revolution.

joshphillips, on Jan 7 2006, 10:51 AM, said:

Bad idea. Miyamoto shouldnt go "hardcore." That ruins the point of Nintendo.

StrykerZ, on Jan 7 2006, 07:11 PM, said:

Well i always wanted to see some blood in the Zelda games. Nah... but we dont even know what exactly is supposed to be hardcore in the new Zelda so we'll just have to wait and see.

VN1X, on Jan 7 2006, 12:13 PM, said:

I heard all of Hyrule moons Gannons troops in an all out war at the end of the game.

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The GCN was, unfortunately, plagued with a number of problems that shallow western society cannot get over. The generic self-labeled hardcore western gamer just won't be impressed with a purple box with a handle. Especially one that has no online support, not a massive library of generic games, and uses "small" disks (I've seen a billion idiots complain about them. Idiots they may be, but they are idiots with money.)

It's sad but true. The GCN did have some other problems, but it was the whole marketing towards a western audience that put it in the back seat and caused it to cop a lot of flack.

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I agree. For starters, the console looks dead sexy. It’s small, sleek, sharp, and has a glowing disk drive. The online service is definitely well underway and is going to be huge. It's finally using standard DVD disks, which also helps.

Reggie, and Nintendo themselves, have been promoting with great force. The GCN just sort of "appeared", but Nintendo are throwing teases, taunting, and very proud comments at us in regards to the Revolution.

They want everyone out there to know its coming, and as far as I'm concerned its working.

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It is likely a bit of a miss-quote as Miyamoto cannot speak English (I think). When he says "hardcore" he does not mean blood, guts, sex, nudity, and foul language, he usually means a mature themed game. Personally, I absolutely love games with a mature theme, and I think Zelda could pull it off very well. Link is already wearning chainmail under his tunic, so we know it has a more ruggered "realistic" look.

I honestly don't think this will harm the series at all. Ocerina, im my opinion, had a number of mature themes, and I do not think TP will have too many more than that.

Are Nintendo Europe having a press conference on the 24th of January? This ties in with what the "No End Soon" blog (http://revolutiondevelopment.blogspot.com/) has been saying. What could it be about (if it's happening), maybe Revolution or Zelda: TP.


Links:

http://www.NintendoNews.co.uk/

http://www.thehylia....6_06_1930.shtml

Here is a question I pose to thee:

The "Nintendo Revolution" is, according to Nintendo, not the final name of the console. It is possible it could turn out to be, as they said the same thing about the "Nintendo DS".

Do you think the current name suits it, or should it have a different title? If so, any ideas?

EatChildren, on Jan 7 2006, 07:38 PM, said:

Nintendo's Laser-Guided System

Off-topic as its related to the NintendoDS, but we don't have an Official DS thread anyway. I thought this was some humerous light-hearted news:

Marilyn Manson a DS Fan.

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Source: http://www.n-sider.c...ry&storyid=1627

EDIT: So if a self-labeled satanic anti-Christ shock-rocker likes the DS, does that still make it a kiddy console?

Yeah, but Marilyn Manson is scary! D:

LOL! Awesome find EatChildren. By the way i thought of a different name for the Revolution wich is: Nintendo Next Level, sounds pretty cool dont you think ? *cough i know i fail*

EatChildren, on Jan 8 2006, 02:38 AM, said:

The Nintendo Revolutionary Evolution of the Devolving Controller Design.....AKA the Nintendo REVOVOVOCONDES......<_<

Seriously now, if they were to call it any name, id like it to be called the Nintendo Nano.....I have an unexplainable liking of anything with the word nano in it...

Err....nice names fellas (nightmare, yours makes me think of Nintendo Anaconda).

I don't know what it should be called. I don't mind the name "Revolution", but it is a little corny and odd. It is not an easily marketable name, in my opinion, and could be a fault.

Perhaps Nintendo have realized this and this will be one of the larger reasons for changing it.

*sigh*

I miss the days before and after E3... all that speculation... the belief in "the N-Game"... OMG those were the days...

All the fake information, and people believing this and that... ahahaha it was great.

IcyStorm, on Jan 8 2006, 05:50 AM, said:

*sigh*.....those were the days.....the days.....the....what days? HEY! What days?! THE DAYS?!?! *grabs the dead guard and shakes him* TELL ME THE DAYS?! WHAT ARE THE DAYS?! HEEEY!!! I DEMAND YOU TELL ME THE DAYS!!! TELL MEEEEE! THE DAAAAAAAAAYS!!! ARRRRRRRR!!!! *slices throat*

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Heh. That would be good for a project codename but nothing else imo

The Nintendo Nu.

Yeah, I said "Nu". What the feck are YOU going to do about it?

http://joystiq.com/2...r-smash-bros-d/

*******...SSBR won't use that controller shell?

Sm00th_Crim1nal, on Jan 7 2006, 10:26 PM, said:

It will probrobly use it, but as a seperate config. Like using a racing wheel instead of a controller.

joshphillips, on Jan 7 2006, 12:09 PM, said:

When have they been non-mainstream before? I would say the playstation was much less mainstream than the 64, and the sega less than the super-nintendo.

Let me rephrase that sorry. I ment that Nintendo didn't really try anything new with the cube as to where the 64 and everything before it was new ground for them. They basically saw what the ps1 was doing and made a better version of it with nothing ground breaking like the 64 compared to the Snes. So by Nintendo doing that they fell into a more mainstream way of doing things which is not usually the norm for their company.

Sm00th_Crim1nal, on Jan 8 2006, 03:26 PM, said:

I think it is a little bit silly to have assumed SSB-Rev will use the controller shell as a standard form of controlling.

I know a lot of big SSB fans don't like it, but wouldn’t it defeat the purpose of the console to have a big franchise name game completely ignore the controller?

The reality is, in my eyes, all you SSB pro players are going to have to adjust yourself to a new control configuration.

Does this mean the controls will suck? Not at all. For all we know the new control method, in using the Rev's remote, will be much smoother and precise, and allow us to perform moves and combo's much quicker and accurately than we could with a standard controller.

It might seem worse at first, but it could play better.

EDIT: People keep thinking the Rev's remote is just an alternative way of controlling current gen games. SSB-Rev will almost certainly contain features that will be utterly impossible to do on a standard controller. It is being built for the Rev's remote, and will take full advantage of it.

The remote is not an alternative, but a completely new style. There are some things it can do that a standard controller cannot, and most (if not all) Nintendo developed and produced titles will prove this.

I'm not sure I read some people's posts right but, I know as a fact that goldeneye was made my nintendo.

Osmoses, on Jan 7 2006, 11:42 PM, said:

Made by Rareware Ltd., not Nintendo. Nintendo simply published it. Then EA picked up the license.

IcyStorm, on Jan 8 2006, 07:45 AM, said:

Oh, because I distinctly remember the silver revolving Nintendo sign from when I was about 10 years old.

Osmoses, on Jan 8 2006, 01:45 AM, said:

Dont you remember the Gold and blue shiny Rareware logo?

Nintendo had the spinny logo, yes. But only because they were publishers.

There's also that gold revolving Rare sign that comes after the silver Nintendo sign

haha eatchildren the Nintendo Anaconda, made especially for Trinity boys!

(you're form sydney right?)

With revolution I can so picture XBOX n00bs crying, 0mG NiN+3nD0 c0p1eS MiCr0soFt

and yeah it was a sad sad sad sad day when Rare got bought, the failings of the gamecube is what drove them away. Poor donkey kong and banjo kazooie!

and all the others.... we weep for you!

(It's prob old)

Nice. Never saw it before :P

Using the controller as a Sword in Zelda...

Brings tears to my eyes. Tears of joy...