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The Ninja's (Black Ops) and Combine Assasins Is there a link



Freedom Fighter

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#16 Posted 17 July 2004 - 01:38 PM

Hah! these combine assasins dont stand a chance against my sheer skill and firepowah!

anyway, on another note.. i looked at the Pic at it's normal size and noticed some interesting things...

the signiture at the bottom/right on the picture has the artists name and the date of.. "2001" ?

also the assasin appears to be wearing a pair of strapped high heals just like stilletos.



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#17 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:47 PM

theyre stilletos of death and thats a smudge mark that says... 2999 uhhhhhhhhh mabe the writer of half life 2 come from the future ::ph34r::
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#18 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:49 PM

and wants us to train in the video game so in the future we will be like warrirs of half life 2 ::ph34r:: (raises a crowbar) for HUMANITY!!!
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#19 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:57 PM

After the marines failed to contain the results of the resonance cascade (that, and some Eric Clapton-lookalike in an orange boiler suit was becoming a nuisance), the marines were pulled out (though several stayed or were left behind) and a platoon of Black Ops was sent in to eliminate the entire compound through harsher means (in this case, a thermonuclear warhead).

That was one sentence! Whoof.

Anyways, the Black Ops were simply another containment crew, sent in to clean up the mess left behind by the marines. To cover up the accident, they were ordered to fire upon anything and everything in sight, including the soldiers.

One question though: Opposing Force indicates that a good number of marines did manage to get extracted from the facility before the Black Ops were sent in. I wonder what they were told, they've obviously seen some things that weren't meant to be seen...
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#20 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:09 PM

ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 05:31 AM, said:

Grunts are orderd to kill Barney, Scientist and Gordon aswell. I think it went like this.
Resonance Cascade event
Grunts send in to clear it
Grunts can't hold the Xen invasion
Goverment think all grunts have become futile
They send in the Assasins to place a nuke (Opforce) to wipe out everyone and black mesa against evidence.
Making them orderd to kill Grunts aswell!

Opposing Force weren't Assassins ... when playing OpFor expansion .. you play as Shepard and you're helped by grunts but assassins want your death ... So Assasins were the big group above everyone, sent perhaps by the government or maybe ... by G-man :o



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#21 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:17 PM

J-Trulli, on Jul 17 2004, 10:09 AM, said:

ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 05:31 AM, said:

Grunts are orderd to kill Barney, Scientist and Gordon aswell. I think it went like this.
Resonance Cascade event
Grunts send in to clear it
Grunts can't hold the Xen invasion
Goverment think all grunts have become futile
They send in the Assasins to place a nuke (Opforce) to wipe out everyone and black mesa against evidence.
Making them orderd to kill Grunts aswell!

Opposing Force weren't Assassins ... when playing OpFor expansion .. you play as Shepard and you're helped by grunts but assassins want your death ... So Assasins were the big group above everyone, sent perhaps by the government or maybe ... by G-man :o

As far as what the assassins know, I think they very well may work for the G-Man or his "employers". So I'll bet they know a lot. After all they refer to the grunts as gruns which implies them being less educated on matters than themselves.



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#22 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:21 PM

Black Op #1: Why do we always have to clean up a mess the grunts can't handle?

Black Op #2: Tell me about it. I just want to deliver the package and get out of here

Black Op #1: Yeah. Sooner or later the grunts are gonna figure it out.

The package is obviously the warhead. But this little piece of dialogue proves that the grunts were lied to. They think they're being pulled out, but instead, they're being wiped out. The grunts that did manage to get out would probably be killed off in the nuclear fallout. Atleast, that's the Black Ops' plan.
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#23 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:30 PM

Yeah, i don't think any Grunts could have made it away from the blast or nuclear radiation.
Its quite possible the G-Man send in the assasins. Since the G-Man had to cover up the tracks, but also test Gordon.

Bite, thats a special avatar you got there... Made trough the leak i take it.
Not a very nice thing to do. :o



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#24 Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:49 PM

ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 10:30 AM, said:

Bite, thats a special avatar you got there... Made trough the leak i take it.
Not a very nice thing to do. :o

It was probably made through the leak, though I found it on a Russian HL2 site that doesn't seem to hide the fact it's played around with the HL2 beta.

I myself am not in possession of the HL2 leak. It would only ruin some of the finer speculation that's been brought up.
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#25 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:17 PM

For people who are saying there isnt going to be assassians because they belonged to the government well, The Combine are infantrey just like the Grunts where so why cant the Combine hvae their own version of a assassin? I do belive there are going to be some assassins and i wouldnt wanna do into one they look mighty deadly



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#26 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:18 PM

@Bite good. :8

The high heels on those Assasins are quite sexy actually. :smile
B.T.W Bite, didn't know you were Belgian too. :)



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#27 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:25 PM

It's unusual for Black Ops to be sent into a mission in such great numbers. They also expose themselves and make no effort in retaining stealth. But I suppose thats acceptable, since it is a covert government facility where any witnesses will be wiped out anyway.

And ShaDoW...ben op en top Belgisch, geboren en getogen ;)
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#28 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:30 PM

I always thought it went like this:

scientists mess up after pressure from the government and the administrator

resonance cascade occurs

government panics and sends in the nearest forces (like in dr. strangelove) which are the grunts

realizing that the grunts can't hold their ground, and that they will eventually talk, the government pulls them out

At the same time they decide to make it look like a nuclear accident and send in some cold war leftovers

So the black ops come in and start killing everyone, while setting up the nuke.

Remember how barney got whacked by a fassin before the grunts began to pull out? I'm thinking that if the fassins weres sent in prior to the grunt retreat, then they are controlled by some unknown party. And since they're coming back in HL2, that party looks like its gonna be revealed. What do you think?



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#29 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:39 PM

The marines only started pulling out at the end of SURFACE TENSION, way after Gordon met the first assassins. That Barney there wanted to warn Freeman of what lurked ahead, but was silenced before he could do so. The female assassins are imho part of the Black Ops incursion. They're highly trained to take out targets that require a specific takedown. Freeman was such a target, because the marines couldn't manage to put him down.

In Opposing Force, we can see the female assassins working hand in hand with the Black Ops. So it's likely they belong to the same government faction.

It's likely we can assume that the G-Man is in control of every party involved in the Black Mesa Research Facility. He sent in the marines (he even had them training for the type of combat they'd encounter in the facility, we saw him at the Boot Camp) and the Black Ops afterwards, when the marines failed.
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#30 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:44 PM

But then we come back to our main topic, who exactly are the Assasins in HLČ?

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