The Ninja's (Black Ops) and Combine Assasins Is there a link
#16 Posted 17 July 2004 - 01:38 PM
anyway, on another note.. i looked at the Pic at it's normal size and noticed some interesting things...
the signiture at the bottom/right on the picture has the artists name and the date of.. "2001" ?
also the assasin appears to be wearing a pair of strapped high heals just like stilletos.
#17 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:47 PM

#18 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:49 PM

#19 Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:57 PM
That was one sentence! Whoof.
Anyways, the Black Ops were simply another containment crew, sent in to clean up the mess left behind by the marines. To cover up the accident, they were ordered to fire upon anything and everything in sight, including the soldiers.
One question though: Opposing Force indicates that a good number of marines did manage to get extracted from the facility before the Black Ops were sent in. I wonder what they were told, they've obviously seen some things that weren't meant to be seen...

It's only work if they make you...
#20 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:09 PM
ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 05:31 AM, said:
Resonance Cascade event
Grunts send in to clear it
Grunts can't hold the Xen invasion
Goverment think all grunts have become futile
They send in the Assasins to place a nuke (Opforce) to wipe out everyone and black mesa against evidence.
Making them orderd to kill Grunts aswell!
Opposing Force weren't Assassins ... when playing OpFor expansion .. you play as Shepard and you're helped by grunts but assassins want your death ... So Assasins were the big group above everyone, sent perhaps by the government or maybe ... by G-man
#21 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:17 PM
J-Trulli, on Jul 17 2004, 10:09 AM, said:
ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 05:31 AM, said:
Resonance Cascade event
Grunts send in to clear it
Grunts can't hold the Xen invasion
Goverment think all grunts have become futile
They send in the Assasins to place a nuke (Opforce) to wipe out everyone and black mesa against evidence.
Making them orderd to kill Grunts aswell!
Opposing Force weren't Assassins ... when playing OpFor expansion .. you play as Shepard and you're helped by grunts but assassins want your death ... So Assasins were the big group above everyone, sent perhaps by the government or maybe ... by G-man
As far as what the assassins know, I think they very well may work for the G-Man or his "employers". So I'll bet they know a lot. After all they refer to the grunts as gruns which implies them being less educated on matters than themselves.
#22 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:21 PM
Black Op #2: Tell me about it. I just want to deliver the package and get out of here
Black Op #1: Yeah. Sooner or later the grunts are gonna figure it out.
The package is obviously the warhead. But this little piece of dialogue proves that the grunts were lied to. They think they're being pulled out, but instead, they're being wiped out. The grunts that did manage to get out would probably be killed off in the nuclear fallout. Atleast, that's the Black Ops' plan.

It's only work if they make you...
#23 Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:30 PM
Its quite possible the G-Man send in the assasins. Since the G-Man had to cover up the tracks, but also test Gordon.
Bite, thats a special avatar you got there... Made trough the leak i take it.
Not a very nice thing to do.
#24 Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:49 PM
ShaDoW, on Jul 17 2004, 10:30 AM, said:
Not a very nice thing to do.
It was probably made through the leak, though I found it on a Russian HL2 site that doesn't seem to hide the fact it's played around with the HL2 beta.
I myself am not in possession of the HL2 leak. It would only ruin some of the finer speculation that's been brought up.

It's only work if they make you...
#25 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:17 PM
#27 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:25 PM
And ShaDoW...ben op en top Belgisch, geboren en getogen ;)

It's only work if they make you...
#28 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:30 PM
scientists mess up after pressure from the government and the administrator
resonance cascade occurs
government panics and sends in the nearest forces (like in dr. strangelove) which are the grunts
realizing that the grunts can't hold their ground, and that they will eventually talk, the government pulls them out
At the same time they decide to make it look like a nuclear accident and send in some cold war leftovers
So the black ops come in and start killing everyone, while setting up the nuke.
Remember how barney got whacked by a fassin before the grunts began to pull out? I'm thinking that if the fassins weres sent in prior to the grunt retreat, then they are controlled by some unknown party. And since they're coming back in HL2, that party looks like its gonna be revealed. What do you think?
#29 Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:39 PM
In Opposing Force, we can see the female assassins working hand in hand with the Black Ops. So it's likely they belong to the same government faction.
It's likely we can assume that the G-Man is in control of every party involved in the Black Mesa Research Facility. He sent in the marines (he even had them training for the type of combat they'd encounter in the facility, we saw him at the Boot Camp) and the Black Ops afterwards, when the marines failed.

It's only work if they make you...

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