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"Age of physics processing units dawns" Inquirer article



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#16 Posted 08 March 2005 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, I heard earlier that things would advance to the stage that we'd be buying physics chips for our games.

Real-time water dynamics would be amazing (if a bit pointless). It also opens up a lot more objects to be physically affected... proper deformation, maybe? a real geomod effort?

On the other hand, I think it's a bit over the top that not only would you need the latest graphics card, you'd need the newest physics chip, too. They should probably look into housing the chip along with the graphics card and sold as one unit if they start to do all this.

But hey, who knows what cell technology might bring? A cpu devoted entirely to physics? Who knows...



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#17 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:01 PM

i want one, how much do ya think that will set the common man back? :w00t

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#18 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:10 PM

Thats some scarry realism.....



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#19 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:15 PM

Master Shake, on Mar 8 2005, 09:10 AM, said:

Thats some scarry realism.....

Yeah just think - fully simulated bullet impacts! Yay!

(not to mention gibbing...)

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But hey, who knows what cell technology might bring? A cpu devoted entirely to physics? Who knows...


lol you make it sound like Pandora's Box or something...*what we may unleash*...



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#20 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:18 PM

ticongeroga, on Mar 8 2005, 06:01 PM, said:

i want one, how much do ya think that will set the common man back? :w00t

I don't think it'll cost more than £50 or $96.46



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#21 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:20 PM

CommanderZx2, on Mar 8 2005, 10:18 AM, said:

ticongeroga, on Mar 8 2005, 06:01 PM, said:

i want one, how much do ya think that will set the common man back? :w00t

I don't think it'll cost more than £50 or $96.46

that would be very nice

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#22 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:34 PM

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Tad Devine' date='Mar 8 2005, 02:08 AM'] [
Because it is obscene the amount of actual material 'value' is in a computer...next to nothing...
Because it costs MONEY.

Gaming has become less 'gaming' and more of a hobby... people don't play, they win. People don't have a machine on which they run games, they have Game Machines.

I guess it's just me, then.


I agree completely!

I remember when you could buy a 386, get a copy of wolfenstein, and go to town. I remember when a cheap 486 would run anything relatively well.

In some ways, I think that it's good that we're getting more complex games. But the performance chase can cost a LOT of money as we go through buying different combinations of cards/chipsets to get the performance we want.

If there wasn't so much "it depends" and parts/performance variance... it wouldn't be so bad.

If someone could give real answers like "If you want to get rid of game stuttering buy xyz video card" and have it be true (like it used to be) then things would be so much better. Now, you practically have to research for weeks to catch up with the industry just to that you don't buy a card that is a rip-off. Of course, by that time the landscape has changed and you end up buying the older generation card and things are different all over again...

Yeah, I miss the old days too.



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#23 Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:48 PM

great, another $200+ to spend on a new rig...
although this technology sounds really, REALLY awesome, what does it mean for people who cannot buy the latest and greatest.

What they will probably is sell different kinds of the PPU, just like the different versions of video cards.
woo I answered my own question



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#24 Posted 08 March 2005 - 06:01 PM

If this could run through pci, its bandwidth wouldnt be too great, therefore I assume these physic chips probably wont be more than $100.



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#25 Posted 08 March 2005 - 06:01 PM

CommieRed, on Mar 9 2005, 01:34 AM, said:

I agree completely!

I remember when you could buy a 386, get a copy of wolfenstein, and go to town. I remember when a cheap 486 would run anything relatively well.

Haha yeah good ol' Wolf 3D.

I remember when I got my Pentium MMX, I didn't even know what the hell a graphics card was and whether I needed a Voodoo or not. :tongue In those days it really didn't matter. (I found out recently that it was an S3 Virge 4MB PCI card)



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#26 Posted 08 March 2005 - 06:12 PM

AgentVX, on Mar 8 2005, 06:01 PM, said:

CommieRed, on Mar 9 2005, 01:34 AM, said:

I agree completely! 

I remember when you could buy a 386, get a copy of wolfenstein, and go to town.  I remember when a cheap 486 would run anything relatively well.

Haha yeah good ol' Wolf 3D.

I remember when I got my Pentium MMX, I didn't even know what the hell a graphics card was and whether I needed a Voodoo or not. :tongue In those days it really didn't matter. (I found out recently that it was an S3 Virge 4MB PCI card)



It wasn't until a few years ago that it became important at all to think about the GPU. Now, it's the most expensive part in my computer... go figure.



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#27 Posted 09 March 2005 - 02:42 AM

my gpu is only the 2nd most expensive part in my comp. its was about $630-650. my cpu on the other hand is a good $1000. anyway this chip could make counter strike pretty interesting. just think, a chucky cheese map with a ball pit that has thousands of individual balls. :8



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#28 Posted 09 March 2005 - 02:49 AM

I hope this doesnt get big, and these things cost less than $100. I might just give up on PC gaming and buy myself a mac if things get extremely expensive. I like to game and all but man... I find it crazy spending over $1,000 a year just for a form of entertainment.

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If this could run through pci, its bandwidth wouldnt be too great, therefore I assume these physic chips probably wont be more than $100.


PCI-express, man. I think PCI-express 1x is comparable to AGP 2x speeds.



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#29 Posted 09 March 2005 - 02:52 AM

Obselete in 1-2 years? Where do you get this crap?
My 3-year-old 2.4B P4 with a stick of 256MB PC2100, 256MB PC2700, and 512MB PC3200 (Mismatched, I know, but it's cheaper than replacing) and a GeForce 6600GT runs just about anything today just fine. Unless you're looking for MAXIMUM MAXIMUM settings, your old comp will suit you just fine in any new games. So what if you can't have the best of the best in eye candy? It can still run and look good if you balance your settings right. Upgrading shouldn't cost you upwards of $1500 if you spend responsibly. I only need ~$200 and I'll be up-to-date (relatively) again; a 2.4C for $140, a 512MB stick of PC3200, and all is well. You don't absolutely need a 6800GT, at least not anytime soon.

With Newegg, I can return whatever part I want replaced, for the same amount of money that I spent to purchase it. So, 9 months from now I can send back my 6600GT and replace it with whatever new midrange card is out at that moment at (relatively) little cost.



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#30 Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:50 AM

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CommanderZx2, on Mar 7 2005, 06:04 PM, said:

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Tad Devine,Mar 8 2005, 03:04 AM] I really wish they would stop increasing the amount of crap you have to buy to run a damn game.

Why if it makes the game better and more realistic?

Because it is obscene the amount of actual material 'value' is in a computer...next to nothing...
Because it costs MONEY.

Gaming has become less 'gaming' and more of a hobby... people don't play, they win. People don't have a machine on which they run games, they have Game Machines.

I guess it's just me, then.


You've got a few good points. But I've got to disagree with what you're paying for. You're not paying for the actual, physical computer (or its components), you're buying the work that these people put into making this thing. Just like when you buy a CD at a store, you pay $15 not because a physical CD and its materials costs $15 (I think the actual cost of that is less than 5 cents or something), but for the music and the work the musicians put into the album.

edit: ohcrap I just realized I bumped a thread from march... it was by accident.. don't kill me!

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