[Nihilius]

Hey guys, i decided to create this topic to see if there are any Atheist/Agnostic members in HLFallout.

Also, this thread also welcomes any other religious views, but please do not start a flame war over which religion is better, or any other flame worthy information. I only wanted to start this thread to find out other people's views.

I myself am an Atheist. The reason i became an atheist is because, i realized that the thought of a greater power seemed very fictional to me. When i was in school i was forced to go to the church at the end of every year, at Christmas and Easter to have a religious ceremony. I started thinking around my 3rd year in high school that a "Supernatural Being" with powers, seemed out of reach. Also in one of the ceremonies the minister said, " God is our savior, God is our creator." Or something along those lines. I said to myself. God did not create me, my mother and father created me. And their mother(s) and father(s) create them and so on and so on. I also believe in evolution and the big bang theory. I believe we are descendants of Primates.

If their are any other people, I'd like to hear you're story.

[Box]

Yeah, it just dosent really seem plausible to me, although who am i to say? For god to create man as imperfect and then expect thier undying devotion dosen't seem really like godlike wisdom.

Plus most people nowadays only christen babys because of their parents wishes or they want some sort of religious insurance policy, so there isn't really a huge genuine following (At least over here). The people who do follow whatever god, fair play, i don't think it makes them and worse as a person... unlike other atheists i've heard.

[( sic )]

I don't believe that God is really what Christianity has deemd it to be as far as all of this all knowing/loving entitiy. However, what I do believe is that there is a power much greater than ourselves that we are all connected to, that in some ways has effects on our lives. Something like Karma I suppose.

[Nihilius]

Box, on May 14 2008, 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah, it just dosent really seem plausible to me, although who am i to say? For god to create man as imperfect and then expect thier undying devotion dosen't seem really like godlike wisdom.

Plus most people nowadays only christen babys because of their parents wishes or they want some sort of religious insurance policy, so there isn't really a huge genuine following (At least over here). The people who do follow whatever god, fair play, i don't think it makes them and worse as a person... unlike other atheists i've heard.

Yeah, as i said this is only my beliefs. Other people can believe whatever they want. It just seems very...unrealistic to me.

EDIT: Also, people with different thoughts can pitch in and say why they believe in what they believe in.

[Warped]

I think I'm swaying away from Christianity, I haven't been to church in 2½ years plus I hated it my entire life. I'd say I'm more Agnostic than ever before

[reverse ninja]

Kintaro, on May 14 2008, 08:25 PM, said:

Also in one of the ceremonies the minister said, " God is our savior, God is our creator." Or something along those lines. I said to myself. God did not create me, my mother and father created me. And their mother(s) and father(s) create them and so on and so on.

Even the most hardcore fundamentalist agrees with this. It's not what the minister meant when he said that God created humans.

[Bundai]

Yeah, I still belong to the church but I've never quite believed in god.

[MacGyver]

I don't get why people say they "believe" in the big bang or in evolution. Either you accept them as facts or you don't, science isn't a religion

[Nihilius]

MacGyver, on May 14 2008, 06:52 PM, said:

I don't get why people say they "believe" in the big bang or in evolution. Either you accept them as facts or you don't, science isn't a religion

Well, if you put it that way. I accept them as facts.

[sn00zer]

Christian-Methodist
Certainly accept both the Big Bang and evolution. I wonder why christianity sees science as taboo considering many early scientists were monks or other members of faith.....

[suicide_mission]

I am pretty much an agnostic, more because I refuse to accept the stale & cold feelings atheism leaves in my heart. I think its more out of biological necesity & survival to believe in a hire being that anything else, so believing is a must for a sound body.

For some odd reason, I have had urges to go into a church and listen to the pastor. Never happened in my teen years, guess its some subconcious thing.

[reverse ninja]

suicide_mission, on May 14 2008, 09:40 PM, said:

I am pretty much an agnostic, more because I refuse to accept the stale & cold feelings atheism leaves in my heart. I think its more out of biological necesity & survival to believe in a hire being that anything else, so believing is a must for a sound body.

Lots of people get by without believing in a deity.

[Lyndon]

Kintaro, on May 14 2008, 05:25 PM, said:

Hey guys, i decided to create this topic to see if there are any Atheist/Agnostic members in HLFallout.

Also, this thread also welcomes any other religious views, but please do not start a flame war over which religion is better, or any other flame worthy information. I only wanted to start this thread to find out other people's views.

I myself am an Atheist. The reason i became an atheist is because, i realized that the thought of a greater power seemed very fictional to me. When i was in school i was forced to go to the church at the end of every year, at Christmas and Easter to have a religious ceremony. I started thinking around my 3rd year in high school that a "Supernatural Being" with powers, seemed out of reach. Also in one of the ceremonies the minister said, " God is our savior, God is our creator." Or something along those lines. I said to myself. God did not create me, my mother and father created me. And their mother(s) and father(s) create them and so on and so on. I also believe in evolution and the big bang theory. I believe we are descendants of Primates.

If their are any other people, I'd like to hear you're story.

I am atheist, BUT I have read the bible and its all true, every last word of it. The problem occurs that people are unable to interpret it properly. Having been born into a Athiest family I got the chance to translate it without prejudice towards a religious belief. First off, when translating it, you have to remember that when the book was written, there were no psychology books, and very little was known about science, plus everything in it has been translated and reinterpreted a billion times, so at this point EVERYTHING IS A METAPHOR. Best way to think of the Bible is man-kinds first attempt at psychology.

First off, GOD is not referring to a invisible man in the sky that grants you wishes. GOD means the physical world and how it relates to the deepest and highest levels of the self conscious. IE in the story of Cain and Abel, when God speaks to Cain and asks where Abel is, it is referring to Cains highest level of self conscious questioning his actions. When God puts a curse on Cain, what it means is that Cains highest level of self conscious will always remember the terrible deed that hes done and so for the rest of his life he carries this weight on his shoulders.

Adam and Eve, were NOT the first man and woman to walk on the earth. This is the story of creation, and it is the story of ones own life. We are all born in the garden of eden, with no sense of sin, once we reach the 8th year (A metaphor for whenever it happens) we learn the difference between good and bad and develop self awareness, this is when we are suddenly in the real world, and realize that we have to work for the rest of our lives.

Six deadly sins another hugely misinterpreted idea. The six deadly sins are concepts that been noted down which cause humans to fall into depression and bring you away from your highest level of self conscious and the physical world aka (God.) Heaven is Euphoria, Hell is Depression. They are not physical places you end up when you die, they are mental worlds you live in during your time on earth. Doing any one of these sins will lead you to depression and remove your sense of the physical world.

Satan and the Angels, the guardian angels are more HUGELY misinterpreted concepts. The angels represent your "self talk" they developed from millions of years of human evolution being ingrained into our minds in the form of "guidance" all the Bible does is try to label them, help you understand how they will reach out to you, and which you should listen to and which ones you should avoid, namely Satan, which is a inner animalistic instinct we are born with that constantly trys to lead you away from your highest level of self concious through short term temptations that lead to depression.

When they say "Jesus died for your sins" this is representational of past historic figures that died as martyrs because they followed their highest guidance and helped form the opinions of the Bible. You see if these people didn't die for what they believed in, we would never of had the book, and we couldn't evolve as a civilization. As God means physical world and highest level of self conscious, anyone born on this planet that listens to their highest level of sense is essentially the Son of God.

So in the end, whether you believe in the Bible or not, the entire thing is probably the greatest book ever written and is a monumental landmark in human history.

[EatChildren]

Atheist with agnostic tendencies. I have no faith in any religion as I believe they are tools of governments in order to dictate and control the people, and that any original intention of a religion (such as peace) is completely lost in modern society and has been lost for some time.

I accept science as to not is pretty moronic. Science holds no faith, only reason. If it is true then it is science, so how can one not believe in the truth?

Buuut my agnostic tendencies stem from an irrational fear of my own death. Deep down I don't believe there is anything beyond, but I delude myself into believing their might be, just to calm my mind until I can bring myself past it.

[vortex]

I'm someone who doesn't really give a ******* on the entire subject. I guess I'm atheist, but I would really not exactly call myself that. It's not a part of my life, it's something I NEVER think about except for when it is asked on the internet. I don't know how the universe began and I don't think the Big Bang Theory has been proven to a point that I will accept it so for now all options are open to me. We could have been created by a god, we may be the science experiment of some much larger beings or we may have all came from a small ball of very, very, very dense matter that exploded one day, or that has continued to explode and contract forever. It's amazing to think of forever...There just had to be a beginning, somehow. It's actually quite intense to try and think how that initial ball of matter was conceived...Maybe a god made THAT and then it exploded. Basically, we don't know and in my opinion anyone who completely shuts out the possibility of a god of some sort is too closed minded for the vast possibilities that exist.

But even if a god was proven to exist, I wouldn't go and worship it every Sunday and be 'good' just for it. I'll be good for myself and fellow man, and I'll feel good about being good. So many people fear Nihilism, but you know what? If it feels good to you, then it is good to a Nihilist, and doing nice things, and being nice to everyone makes me feel good and stealing and murdering would make me feel bad...And I think most people think this way, so I don't see how Nihilism is feared by so many people. At the same time...This whole post is really off topic, lol.