Half-Life Fallout: Remove what makes HLF HLF or not? - Half-Life Fallout

As Mutley told me to do this, I am. If its in the wrong section, feel free to move it.

As I am sure those of you who are reading this knows, we have a new admin on the forums. Now, what he wants to do is basically remove what makes HLF HLF and basically start from scratch, do you support this? Simply answer yes or no.

Tad bias but I'm cool with that.

The content, posts, members won't be lost! The site overhaul will be a step-by-step process where the community will feedback and suggest changes and enhancements.

The current website and forum is broken in many places (inc Lost Password, RSS etc), which will take a lot of work and I can't guarantee they are fixable.

A new site, with the communities complete input (no changes overnight) will give HLF a boost in the features and content management it NEEDS and deserves to go forwards.

As I've said, all the design drafts will be finalised by you, the community, we can make it as identical to the design is now, I just want the main structure (code / CMS) to be redone.

That's all, I'm not killing anything, as I keep saying it will be a community process and I'm being very fair with allowing this poll to go ahead... that's my input.

Looks like I screwed up the poll, Mind locking/Deleting this as I will be making another thread with a proper poll.

The poll seems to be working just fine.

Bundai, on Aug 29 2009, 11:32 AM, said:

Actually, it doesnt, I changed the question and now the two who voted for No no longer show up.

Fox! We've got a major need for a revamp. The forum isn't full view, and because of a bespoke Content Management System/dated skin we have, it takes too long to migrate upwards in versions of the forum. This was indeed going to be fixed in 2005, but we had that hilarious incident where we got thrown out of the Ogres Network and it never did.

It won't change what HLF is. If anything, it will give this place new life once again. I would liken this to when the network went round all the other sites and changed them to V Bulletin, gave them a new lick of paint and updated all the sites. There were some people who said similar to you at those respective sites, but soon realised they were wrong once changes were made. I mean I have an affinity for how the place looks too, but we must change with the times.

I hate to liken to old times continually, but I think the proof is always in the pudding. We were the busiest network site by quite a way. However we've never had any serious attempt to update the look. Take Total War Center, one of our former brothers in the network. They did update their look, and it's one of the major reasons that they are now the #1 visited Total War site (Except the official one) on the internet. (I'm not putting forward their design as a suggestion keep in mind, I'm just pointing out they've changed their design to something that suits the kind of games they cover very well etc).

So the question I'd put to you is, would you like to push for the kind of forum activity our former brothers have, or would you like to sit in the past asking yourself where w-ninja is?

Well, everyone is afraid of change, and I like HLF the way it is...mostly because I'm so used to it.

However, I think that the site could do with a redo, get rid of the archaic structures, of the dusty dead links etc.
HLF should be more than just a forum, although the forums are it's life and soul.
Now is the perfect time to do this change, with the symbolism of new management and all.

One point that I do find important is to keep the general aesthetic of HLF, it's really what sets it apart, the clear, light, faded look is still sexy.

I voted yes, it's in dire need of updating. It's not like the skin and layout really make-up what HLF is as a community. Most websites go through quite a few redesigns and we haven't had one.

If you guys want to remove what makes HLF HLF since its birth, why dont we even jump to another site name and all that?

Are you saying that a skin and some software are the soul of HLF?

...wtf, that makes no sense, you're just afraid of going forward.

Just to clarify, its currently 3 No and 5 Yes, I edited the poll when two had voted no, me and one more, and when I did that, the poll votes resetted themselves so it was 0/0.

And to Brumisator, yes, the software and the skin are a part of what makes HLF. As far as I know, no other forum had this kind of layout or anything even remotely close to it.

I voted No before the question was changed (doesn't show up anymore so no matter), but after reading Mutley's response I would have voted Yes. You should really change the first post Fox, it confused me (I thought everything would be changing, completely new forums, the lot), though that could be because I'm tired.

benwalker, on Aug 29 2009, 11:58 AM, said:

With most probability that is what will happen, Mutley has already stated that the forum software is outdated and as such, when time comes to kill HLF and remake it, the software will be updated and thus everything that has been posted will be lost with it, amongst everything else.

The fox, on Aug 29 2009, 01:00 PM, said:

Mutley, on Aug 29 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

The fox, on Aug 29 2009, 01:00 PM, said:

The posts won't be lost. They are easy to convert and transfer.