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Deus Ex Human Revolution



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#61 Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:07 PM

I'll be honest, I am not impressed, as a deus ex fan I may or may not play this game. It looks way to futuristic for it to fit the franchise, and why the **** is the 3rd instalment a prequel? Also deus ex was more about conspiracy theories, and shadow organizations taking control and not "powerful corporations." I guess the only nice thing I have to say about it is, the graphics.



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#62 Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:19 PM

It's probably a prequel because they were too lazy to decide how to continue Invisible War's story, which had 5-6 significantly different endings.
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#63 Posted 07 June 2010 - 05:23 PM

Shit. I forgot the earlier thing was just a teaser. I just now saw the thing for real.
The trailer was pretty awesome. Though there isn't actual gameplay footage, yet.

View Postmrfox, on 07 June 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

I'll be honest, I am not impressed, as a deus ex fan I may or may not play this game. It looks way to futuristic for it to fit the franchise, and why the **** is the 3rd instalment a prequel? Also deus ex was more about conspiracy theories, and shadow organizations taking control and not "powerful corporations." I guess the only nice thing I have to say about it is, the graphics.

It does look way to futuristic for a sequel. It would have been better if they just made it a restart. The original, set in 2050+, looked definitly didn't look this advanced.
They are clearly going for a cool cyberpunk style, but they really aren't setting it up as a prequel aesthetically. Also they've have this weird dropship like transport and over 20 years everyone's back to using choppers?

I do have to say that powerful corporations were a very large part of the Deus Ex conspiracy. Bob Page was owner of the biggest monopoly and both MJ12 and the Illuminati had been using corporation as tools. Don't think a coporation angle dismisses the government/shadow organization conspiracy part of the story.

View PostEl Inspector, on 07 June 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

It's probably a prequel because they were too lazy to decide how to continue Invisible War's story, which had 5-6 significantly different endings.

Not to mention that all those ending were pretty definitive. The Illuminati ending was the only one that held some opening for a future game.
Come to think of it storywise the game seems to be more focussed on things IW did (transhumanism/human enhancement), than the original's conspiracy theory blender.

I love the aesthetics and I think this game has great potential to be awesome, but as a prequel to DX it doesn't really work.
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#64 Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:26 PM

I don't see what's so bad about the setting, I'd imagine the game would end up with a total economic collapse, explaining why everything in Deus Ex 1 looks so run down.
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#65 Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:29 PM

View Postmrfox, on 07 June 2010 - 09:07 AM, said:

I'll be honest, I am not impressed, as a deus ex fan I may or may not play this game. It looks way to futuristic for it to fit the franchise, and why the **** is the 3rd instalment a prequel? Also deus ex was more about conspiracy theories, and shadow organizations taking control and not "powerful corporations." I guess the only nice thing I have to say about it is, the graphics.

I think going backwards in the storyline was a good choice, the same way they did with Batman Begins after all those other terrible Batman movies. If you remember from the first game, the way that MJ12 was taking control was through the organizations it controlled: Page Industries, Versalife, and UNATCO.
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#66 Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:20 PM

View PostEl Inspector, on 08 June 2010 - 12:26 AM, said:

I don't see what's so bad about the setting, I'd imagine the game would end up with a total economic collapse, explaining why everything in Deus Ex 1 looks so run down.

Mostly because the futuristic looking cities and transportation would still be present, though in a lesser state after such an event. Which still is a bit of an aesthetic discontinuity.

I'm just happy to have a something that looks like a proper cyberpunk/transhuman game again.
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#67 Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:08 AM

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I do have to say that powerful corporations were a very large part of the Deus Ex conspiracy. Bob Page was owner of the biggest monopoly and both MJ12 and the Illuminati had been using corporation as tools. Don't think a coporation angle dismisses the government/shadow organization conspiracy part of the story.

I disagree. If the big corporations had any power it was because of the shadow organizations controling them and not just, OH cororations are evil just because. Remember, the grey death was manufactured in order to control the gov. I am also guessing the story line of deus ex 3 as predictable. We will probably meet Gunter, and Navara, I don't think I spelled their names right, and this main character will have something to deal with the NSF, it has been a while since I played Deus Ex, so I am not sure who started the NSF or if it's founder was even mentioned. I do have to admit, even though I am not over hyped for Deus Ex 3 it makes me want to fire up Deus Ex, I may play DE3 just for the story. Hopefully they won't dick that up.



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#68 Posted 08 June 2010 - 12:48 PM

View Postmrfox, on 08 June 2010 - 01:08 AM, said:

I disagree. If the big corporations had any power it was because of the shadow organizations controling them and not just, OH cororations are evil just because. Remember, the grey death was manufactured in order to control the gov. I am also guessing the story line of deus ex 3 as predictable. We will probably meet Gunter, and Navara, I don't think I spelled their names right, and this main character will have something to deal with the NSF, it has been a while since I played Deus Ex, so I am not sure who started the NSF or if it's founder was even mentioned. I do have to admit, even though I am not over hyped for Deus Ex 3 it makes me want to fire up Deus Ex, I may play DE3 just for the story. Hopefully they won't dick that up.

But Grey Death and the cure Ambrosia were both manufactured by Versalife, netting them billions in vaccine sales for a plague that they created. NSF started as a seperatist movement in the Pacific Northwest of the United States but by the time of the first game it has become an international 'terrorist' organization controlled by the Illuminati.
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#69 Posted 08 June 2010 - 02:56 PM

View PostRecoil Operated, on 08 June 2010 - 03:48 AM, said:

But Grey Death and the cure Ambrosia were both manufactured by Versalife, netting them billions in vaccine sales for a plague that they created. NSF started as a seperatist movement in the Pacific Northwest of the United States but by the time of the first game it has become an international 'terrorist' organization controlled by the Illuminati.

Yeah and who had their hand dipped in versa life. :phew:

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#70 Posted 08 June 2010 - 03:37 PM

View Postmrfox, on 08 June 2010 - 07:08 AM, said:

I disagree. If the big corporations had any power it was because of the shadow organizations controling them and not just, OH cororations are evil just because. Remember, the grey death was manufactured in order to control the gov.

You missed my point. The Illuminati and MJ12/Bob Page controlled corporations.
A head of a mega-corporation also the head of an shadow organization... It looks like one does not exclude the other.

Wait I heard that before...

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I do have to say that powerful corporations were a very large part of the Deus Ex conspiracy. Bob Page was owner of the biggest monopoly and both MJ12 and the Illuminati had been using corporation as tools. Don't think a coporation angle dismisses the government/shadow organization conspiracy part of the story.


That's my quote by the way.
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#71 Posted 09 June 2010 - 03:22 AM

And this is my quote btw.

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Apparently I didn't miss the point if we are both saying the same thing. I just did the same thing you did, mis read.



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#72 Posted 09 June 2010 - 04:42 AM

View Postmrfox, on 09 June 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:

Apparently I didn't miss the point if we are both saying the same thing. I just did the same thing you did, mis read.

Which was my point.
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#73 Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:16 AM

I never played any of these games. Well I attempted to play the first one. Twice actually. Could never force myself to pass the first level. I guess I started playing it way too long after it was released (sometime last year). I always read from the fans that the 2nd was terrible or something, so I avoided that all together.
The trailer for Human Revolution is really awesome, and has me hoping the game will be just as good. But when does that ever happen these days?



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#74 Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:24 AM

View Posttriggerfull, on 09 June 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:

I never played any of these games. Well I attempted to play the first one. Twice actually. Could never force myself to pass the first level. I guess I started playing it way too long after it was released (sometime last year). I always read from the fans that the 2nd was terrible or something, so I avoided that all together.
The trailer for Human Revolution is really awesome, and has me hoping the game will be just as good. But when does that ever happen these days?

Looks like you're exactly the kind of person this game is made for: never played the originals, but heard only good things, so you won't start whining about how it doesn't live up to the "real" Deus Ex, or whatever. You will enjoy it if it's a good game, even if it's not earth shattering.
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#75 Posted 09 June 2010 - 09:25 AM

More than likely yes, I am the kind of person who this game was made for. The "new fan", if you will, that comes in the middle of the series when the game is made more accessible and what not. Don't worry I've been on the other side of this - the side of the "original fan" - and have hated the person whose position I'm in now. But when Human Evolution comes out, I promise not to soil the memories of the old games.

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