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Tripoli has fallen, whats next?



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#1 Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:19 AM

Im not sure how many people are following the news. It appears that rebel fighters have gain control of the city of Tripoli, Gaddafi has fled and is now in hiding. Currently, there is some amount of misinformation and confusion, most groups say that rebels have gained total control & captured their ex-leader, but other sources say that Tripoli is still under Gaddafi's rule with several generals preparing to wage guerrilla warfare similar to Iraq.

From The Telegraph:

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Gaddafi ran the North African oil producing-country like a cult, without state institutions that would make any transition easier for the rebels, who have plenty of spirit but lack a proper chain of command.

They are also weighed down by factionalism and ethnic and tribal divisions.

The most prominent rebel leader is Mustafa Abdel Jalil, chairman of the National Transitional Council (NTC), a disparate group of Gaddafi opponents based in the eastern city of Benghazi.

It consists of former government ministers and longstanding opposition members who represent wide-ranging views including Arab nationalism, Islamists, secularists, socialists and businessmen.


and from CNN Live Blog:

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[Updated at 8:22 p.m. ET, 2:22 a.m. Tuesday in Libya] More information about tonight's appearance in Tripoli of Saif al-Islam Gadhafi, who rebels claimed was captured on Sunday:

Video showed Saif al-Islam, son of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and a top official in his regime, shaking hands and greeting supporters overnight while leaning outside of a car in his armored convoy on the streets of Tripoli. He told reporters that supporters of his father Moammar Gadhafi's government "have broken the spines of those rats and those gangsters" - referring to rebel fighters who entered the capital over the weekend.

He said that on Tuesday the government's forces "will reassure the people that things are fine in Tripoli."

Asked about his being wanted by the International Criminal Court - which has issued a warrant for his arrest for his alleged participation in "crimes against humanity" - Saif al-Islam Gadhafi said, "To hell with the ICC."

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#2 Posted 23 August 2011 - 07:21 AM

I was kind of disappointed when his son was still free. Coverage had faded, but now that they are in Tripoli things are picking up again.
It's nice to know they made such progress against Gadhafi, let's hope that it'll be over soon.

Wonder if the focus will shift toward Syria after this. Both Ashad and Gadhafi have been especially terrible during the protests.
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#3 Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:40 PM

Dunno but we had an earthquake here yesterday. Crazy stuffs.
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#4 Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:33 AM

I don't see a bright future for Libya. Once their common enemy is gone, it seems like the rebels will have more working against them than for them on their road to making a democratic government.
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#5 Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:52 AM

View PostBerrie, on 23 August 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:

I was kind of disappointed when his son was still free. Coverage had faded, but now that they are in Tripoli things are picking up again.
It's nice to know they made such progress against Gadhafi, let's hope that it'll be over soon.

Wonder if the focus will shift toward Syria after this. Both Ashad and Gadhafi have been especially terrible during the protests.

Wow, way to predict the future... The Syrian uprising has become one of the most violent uprising in my lifetime with the end no where to be seen nearly two years in.


View PostBones, on 25 August 2011 - 03:33 AM, said:

I don't see a bright future for Libya. Once their common enemy is gone, it seems like the rebels will have more working against them than for them on their road to making a democratic government.

Surprisingly and unlike other Arab countries that had succumbed to not much more than Islamic-orientated states as opposed to more liberal states, Lybia is the only country in which the post-uprising election actually gave the liberal party the controlling seats in the government. Hopefully, the rest of Africa and the Middle East will follow.

http://en.rian.ru/wo.../174460651.html
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#6 Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:41 PM

To think it's been more than a year since the protests started in Syria.
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#7 Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:20 PM

Syria will collapse slowly. The military is slowly loosing faith in the government and will start to feel the grind from the rebels. The US has been covertly supplying armaments to the rebels, but with the elections coming soon, the president is unwilling to commit forces.

Much less if there isnt a cohesive group to make deals with.


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#9 Posted 18 August 2012 - 02:26 PM

I doubt there will ever be ground intervention in Syria. After Iraq & Afghanistan every western country in the world is sick and tired of such muddy conflicts which are essentially unwinnable (is that a word?). That's why in Lybia NATO only gave air support and basically destroyed Lybia's air defences and continued to air-strike valuable targets. This did a lot to ensure the rebels' victory. Syria is a completely different subject - their air defence network is the best in the world what with all the new Russian SAMs they recently got and the extremely dense spread of the older SAM batteries (SA-2, 3, 5, 6, 8).
No western air force wants to risk losing a considerable amount of planes "just" to help the rebels.
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